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re: Westbrook triple double average

Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:38 pm to
I'm not talking about the MVP race. There are plenty of other factors besides triple doubles when voting on MVP. I'm simply saying triple doubles isn't a casual fan stat. Because it's not.
Posted by Split2874
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:43 pm to
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73 games played 768 Rebounds 758 Assists If he plays the full 82 games. He needs 62 more assists and 52 more rebounds in 9 games. To average a 30 point triple double, he will need to average 18.5 PPG, 6.9 assists, 5.8 rebounds over his final 9 games. If he played in all 9 remaining games but didn't record a stat, he would finish 28/9.4/9.2 37 triple doubles on the season. 4 short of the NBA record of 41.



OP and it turns into the typical Harden blah blah, writers, Vegas odds, pod cast, ....He said she said...

It will be very cool to see somebody avg a triple double I really hope he is able to do it.
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:43 pm to
You say this as if 10 games over .500 in the West is a bad thing.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:44 pm to
Curious as to why you just picked that part out of my post when it was evident I was talking about triple doubles as they relate to the MVP race.
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:51 pm to
I forgot one other stat regarding triple doubles.


30-7

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110841 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:55 pm to
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I forgot one other stat regarding triple doubles.


30-7
Empty stats!
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:03 pm to
their net rating is 1. Most years that doesn't even get you in the playoffs in the west. they are no threat to beat any of their potential Rd one matchups.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:04 pm to
We can still discuss it in terms of MVP then. It still has less to do with them downplaying triple doubles and more to do with the Rockets record. It also has to do with Westbrook isn't the best shooter.

Nobody is saying "eh, triple doubles aren't a big deal". That's silly bro.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:09 pm to
Actually there are.

Not that triple Doubles aren't a big deal. They are. But they aren't nearly as big a deal as lots are making them out to be.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:10 pm to
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But they aren't nearly as big a deal as lots are making them out to be.


They are that big of a deal. They just lose their luster with Westbrook because he is very inefficient.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57353 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:10 pm to
They would beat Utah.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:11 pm to
You're wrong dude

I listen to these same podcasts. The knock on Westbrook is shooting % and team accomplishment compared to JH. That's it. They aren't downplaying his triple doubles as some empty stat.

If you swap records for the teams, but still keep Russ' shooting %, Russ is winning in a landslide

Team accomplishment is a bigger factor than downplaying his triple doubles
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57353 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:12 pm to
He's the PER leader by a wide margin.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:24 pm to
Westbrook has been inefficient and they've lost 31 games. That is obviously why James is ahead. It has nothing to do with the voters thinking triple doubles are an overrated stat, or whatever.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:28 pm to
Many causal fans would have you believe that averaging a triple double = automatic MVP. that's where they are being overvalued bc this race isn't all that close and it's a given at this point that he will finish w a triple double. That has been built into all of the lines.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4412 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Many causal fans would have you believe that averaging a triple double = automatic MVP.


This would generally be the case. It just so happens Westbrook did it while being inefficient and playing on an average team.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110841 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:34 pm to
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and playing on an average team
No
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:34 pm to
No it's not. The last triple double winner didn't win MVP or even top 2 so why would anyone ever assume it means automatic MVP?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:35 pm to
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Many causal fans would have you believe that averaging a triple double = automatic MVP.


this may be wrong, but it doesn't make someone a casual fan just because they feel this way. Because you're wrong about how voters feel about triple doubles. They value them highly. Just not if you lose 30+ games and shoot 42%.

Again, swap the records and Russ wins in a landslide.
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