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We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:16 pm
And it’s not really close. I’d say 65% Brady 35% bill.
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:18 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
How many times we gonna do this thread?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:19 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:19 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
On a Friday? You’re doing this on a Friday?
Hopefully no one entertains this stupid ESPN like thread
Hopefully no one entertains this stupid ESPN like thread
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:21 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:21 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Good QBs need good coaches.
Good coaches need good QBs.
Good QBs need good lines.
Good QBs and good coaches need good defenses.
Good QBs and good coaches need good special teams.
Good QBs and good coaches need good luck..
It's never as simple as you're all trying to make it.
Good coaches need good QBs.
Good QBs need good lines.
Good QBs and good coaches need good defenses.
Good QBs and good coaches need good special teams.
Good QBs and good coaches need good luck..
It's never as simple as you're all trying to make it.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:28 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
You could have admitted that anytime over the past 20 years.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:30 pm to Spelt it rong
So far you could make same case for Sean Payton?
What has he done without Brees?
Not to mention some of the terrible defenses he oversaw.
What has he done without Brees?
Not to mention some of the terrible defenses he oversaw.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:37 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
some of yal are insufferable.
Brady had a 3 year stretch from 2012-2014 where he put up some not-elite numbers, very kirk cousins esque
- average passing yards
- high volumes
- shite OL
- 2 solid receivers (gronk & welker)
and everyone thought his career was on a downhill slide.
Brady had a 3 year stretch from 2012-2014 where he put up some not-elite numbers, very kirk cousins esque
- average passing yards
- high volumes
- shite OL
- 2 solid receivers (gronk & welker)
and everyone thought his career was on a downhill slide.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:43 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Brady went his entire career with elite defenses. Rodgers, Manning, Brees only had them a handful of times.
Any of the three quarterbacks mentioned above would have had multiple super bowls with Brady’s teams. Brady on the other hand would not have multiple on their teams.
Brady is GOAT. But without Bill he’s probably just a borderline top 5 QB
Any of the three quarterbacks mentioned above would have had multiple super bowls with Brady’s teams. Brady on the other hand would not have multiple on their teams.
Brady is GOAT. But without Bill he’s probably just a borderline top 5 QB
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:43 pm to nicholastiger
quote:Check Sean Payton's record without Brees, then check Belichick's record without Brady.
So far you could make same case for Sean Payton?
What has he done without Brees?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:49 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Based on the Patriots record when the opponent scores more than 24, I don’t think it’s a much Brady as I would have thought.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:51 pm to lsuguy84
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:00 pm to TigerMan327
quote:
Brady went his entire career with elite defenses. Rodgers, Manning, Brees only had them a handful of times.
So? Brady should not be faulted because the defense played much harder for him knowing they are probably going to win if they give him the ball back
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:01 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It's not debatable.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:10 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
First two Super Bowls were Bill's. Last 4 were Tom's. Brady was just a game manager for the first two Super Bowls and didn't become elite until the 3rd one.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:10 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Brady didn’t coach defense
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:28 pm to Anfield Road
quote:
First two Super Bowls were Bill's. Last 4 were Tom's. Brady was just a game manager for the first two Super Bowls and didn't become elite until the 3rd one.
Brady threw over 350 yards and 3 TDs against the Panthers.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:40 pm to nicholastiger
quote:
So far you could make same case for Sean Payton? What has he done without Brees?
5-0 with Bridgewater
9-8 with Winston, Taysom, Trevor Simeon and Ian Book
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:50 pm to TigerMan327
That Tampa title ruins your argument.
I'm a Peyton guy but he had considerably better offensive talent throughout his career than Brady in a league built around QBs and offenses.
I'm a Saints guy, Brees had better talent around him than Brady.
Rodgers is just overrated. Couldn't win big games.
Any argument in the world can be made in football except that Tom Brady isnt the goat. He's got more titles individually than any franchise in history. Ifs aren't an argument. They are excuses.
I'm a Peyton guy but he had considerably better offensive talent throughout his career than Brady in a league built around QBs and offenses.
I'm a Saints guy, Brees had better talent around him than Brady.
Rodgers is just overrated. Couldn't win big games.
Any argument in the world can be made in football except that Tom Brady isnt the goat. He's got more titles individually than any franchise in history. Ifs aren't an argument. They are excuses.
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