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re: Was there ever a bigger badass in MLB than Albert Belle?

Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:36 am to
Posted by raceboy
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:36 am to
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Did they tell you that?


Yes. So eat shite.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:06 am to
It's so funny the way perception changes. If you were a player in the 90's and did that, you were a hardnosed, tough SOB who didn't take any shite. If you did that now you'd be a thug POS. Can you imagine if someone gave an infielder a forearm shiver like that?

Also, people wanna talk about how tough everyone was back in the day, but that team he punked was a bunch of bitches. There's not a single team now who wouldn't have started a full-on brawl if a player did that.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41187 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:13 am to
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Top 5 hitter maybe. Bonds is the clear #1 and Thomas is the clear #2 then you've got Piazza Martinez Mcgwire Sosa Walker and Bagwell


In whatever order, Griffey, Bonds, and Maddux are the top 3 players in the 90s.
Posted by Tarik One
Member since May 2016
2094 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:19 am to
That's why writers and fans should not have votes. Media hold grudges and play favorites, regardless of how well he did on the field. They pretend to be unbiased, but that's BS. See it time and again.

He performed far better than Mo Vaughn in nearly every single statistic tracked.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:49 am to
I don't remember anything specific but I'm pretty sure Vina was a pretty hated little shite also. Shouldn't have stood on the train tracks.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:08 am to
I agree with this..... But Thomas and Belle are right there.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:08 am to
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slickest fielding SS ever.


Ozzie Smith and not really close.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:08 am to
Agreed!!!!! The best EVER...
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:21 am to
Your favorite player was Ryan Klesko
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51593 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:40 am to
He was so awesome. That 95 team was such a joy to watch. I don't think I knew anyone at the time that didn't like watching that team.
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
2354 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:49 am to
You mean the fielder who was trying to tag him out and had already fielded the ball? Try again, Gump.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16905 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:12 pm to
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Ozzie Smith and not really close.


Yep, Omar career fielding percentage of .972 vs Ozzie's .966.

I think Ozzie is the more popular choice because he got so much more coverage than Omar got playing in Cleveland. Ozzie's back flips probably helped him a bit for popularity too. Ozzie had the better arm but Omar the better hitter ( but we're not talking about that).

For fielding percentage and theatrics, nobody comes close to Omar Visquel.

Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:29 pm to
Ozzie's Fielding percentage is 976 so I don't know where you got your number

LINK

Smith has 13 Gold Gloves in 19 compared to Vizquels 11 in 23 yrs
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 2:54 pm to
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Ozzie's Fielding percentage is 976 so I don't know where you got your number

LINK

Smith has 13 Gold Gloves in 19 compared to Vizquels 11 in 23 yrs
Omar still had a higher fielding percentage at 985. LINK
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 2:56 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202899 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:04 pm to
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Omar still had a higher fielding percentage at 985. LINK


Ok... NOW compare them In the games they both played on that plastic grass Smith played every home game on..... Its MUCH harder to play on that plastic stuff than grass... FACT............
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78605 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:16 pm to
"Right fricking there, a-hole".
Like a boss.
Albert Freaking Belle.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16905 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:45 pm to
Omar Visquel

Ozzie Smith stats

Hit the link to see the source. It's a razor thin difference between these two.

Slickest---Omar by a large margin. I've seen him field behind his back, between his legs, bare handed, field and throw with his gloved hand and all in live MLB games.

No back flips though, but I don't think Ozzie did that in the midst of a live ball.

Both of them are rare talents.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:48 pm to
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Top 5 hitter maybe. Bonds is the clear #1 and Thomas is the clear #2 then you've got Piazza Martinez Mcgwire Sosa Walker and Bagwell


In whatever order, Griffey, Bonds, and Maddux are the top 3 players in the 90s.




There is some serious disrespect being thrown at Tony Gwynn in this thread...


He batted .394 with a .454 OBP with 19 strikeouts in 419 ABs in 1995
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16905 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:49 pm to
Omars lowest Fielding percentage at Seattle was .971 which is comparable to Ozzie's career number of .972. Interdasting.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72948 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:54 pm to
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but that team he punked was a bunch of bitches. There's not a single team now who wouldn't have started a full-on brawl if a player did that.


No, the players now would retreat to their safe spaces with their thumb in their mouth. You better be able to take a hit in any sport if you played during that era.
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