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re: UPDATE: Katy not DQ'd will play Manvel; player disqualified for year

Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by GoldenGuy
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:52 pm to
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Pitiful


Katy figuratively the same history as Odessa Permian. They are not the good guys.
Posted by C-Bear
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 6:35 am to
You're obviously going to believe what you want about the KHS program and you're certainly entitled to have those beliefs. But, you really have no idea what those young men go through when they commit to play football for KHS. Trust me, the discipline is strict and they bust their tails day in and day out. FYI, the mother of the young man in question is an LSU alum and former cheerleader.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 6:50 am to
Katy dominates the regular season and then has been bounced the past few years


There district is a joke. Check out the scores from their district games. They are all 70-0 and 65-3.

Not saying Katy isn't good, they are damn good. Just saying even damn good teams should have decent teams in the there district
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:03 am to
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Manvelle might be behind it. I think they tried to pull the same shite on Pearland.

Well it's not like Katy hasn't been DQ'd before for the same shite. And it's Manvel.
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:08 am to
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This "ho hum" situation is the result of this young man's single mom losing her job and being unable to stay in their home. They moved to an apartment in the KHS attendance zone. Word is he sat out the required amount of time. Feel better about yourself Golden Guy?

Sad situation but rules are rules. If they broke the rules then they should be DQ'd.
Posted by nofear67
Houston
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:10 am to
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Trust me, the discipline is strict and they bust their tails day in and day out.

No different than any program.

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FYI, the mother of the young man in question is an LSU alum and former cheerleader.

Again, a sad situation but you are reaching for sympathy against a possible rules violation.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:32 am to
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FYI, the mother of the young man in question is an LSU alum and former cheerleader.


Damn sad that our cheerleaders are regulated to living out in the cookiecutter burbs. Marry up girl
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27698 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:47 am to
I was looking forward to the Katy/Lake Travis matchup


Random note: I have an immediate family member on the board of Katy ISD(LSU alum). Can't wait to get the scoop. Already texted him, haven't heard back
Posted by C-Bear
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:01 am to
It is a sad situation, but I'm not trying for sympathy, just stating the facts of this particular circumstance. As to your comment about level of discipline, I've heard otherwise. I personally know of several kids that have played for Katy and other programs. The boys themselves speak of the difference and the level of buy in to the program. I also have friends that coach at other KISD schools and trust me, they are trying to achieve the same. I think it has a great deal to dol with the fact that KHS is the oldest school in town and the tradition runs deep. Katy proper/Old Town Katy lives and breathes red and white, the other areas aren't as committed. We've only lived here a handful of years, but it doesn't take long to see the difference.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:21 am
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:31 am to
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As to your comment about level of discipline, I've heard otherwise. I personally know of several kids that have played for Katy and other programs. The boys themselves speak of the difference and the level of buy in to the program. I also have friends that coach at other KISD schools and trust me, they are trying to achieve the same. I think it has a great deal to dol with the fact that KHS is the oldest school in town and the tradition runs deep. Katy proper/Old Town Katy lives and breathes red and white, the other areas aren't as committed. We've only lived here a handful of years, but it doesn't take long to see the difference.


It is at a completely different level at KHS. It is obvious in how they have maintain dominance while the area has grown from 3 HS in the 90s (Katy, Taylor, and Mayde Creek) to the 8 or 9 they have now. You would think the talent would be more diluted even if the area grows in size.

They prepare these kids in junior high feeder schools to put on the red and white. It is a whole different level than the other schools in the area. But even that is hard because I think 2 of the 3 middle schools the feed KHS split the kids up when they move on from junior high. The get more buy in/commitment for a larger number of kids than other schools. Apart from Katy, only one program has won a 5A title over the last decade while coming from a school district with more than two high schools.

And to be honest with their success they have become a breeding ground for kids that "live with their grandma" in Katy proper. Recruiting definitely happens in spades at Katy.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:39 am
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:41 am to
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They got DQed on the way to the title game because some backup tight end who forged his report card played 3 plays in a blow out win.


So, they are stupid cheaters
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36609 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:44 am to
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And to be honest with their success they have become a breeding ground for kids that "live with their grandma" in Katy proper. Recruiting definitely happens in spades at Katy.


oh yeah, defiantly been some Gerrymandering with the zoning too.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:51 am to
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So, they are stupid cheaters



I wouldn't call it that. The coaches didn't cheat to keep some third string TE eligible.

The kids forged his report card in some manner. The whole deal fell on one kid. This was the 90s where technology wasn't as prevalent and I assume it was more difficult to keep tabs. Katy also doesn't have like 50 kids on the roster. They have 100+.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:53 am
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:07 am to
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Not saying Katy isn't good, they are damn good. Just saying even damn good teams should have decent teams in the there district


The school can't help the talent around them and one good example is Aledo who is with a bunch of Ft. Worth ISD schools, Weatherford and Granbury. You have to deal with the hand your dealt, it's not the school's fault.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27698 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:16 am to
I hope this passes and we get to see them play lake Travis

Don't discount Rockwall either
Posted by C-Bear
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809 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:26 am to
I have no doubt that Katy recruits kids to play there. Hell, my own high school in Louisiana currently does. If the kid(s) meets ALL eligibility requirements, so be it. If they don't, it needs to be proven and action taken.. There are plenty of parents that will do whatever it takes to get their children in the right situation, if they have the talent. Katy's success gets them more exposure. It should also be noted, that there are schools in the Houston area that have open enrollment, meaning you don't even have to worry about boundary lines.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10870 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:44 am to
Lived in the same Katy area and heard the same stories about recruitment and grade manipulation as everyone else knew.

The feeder system thing above is true too. It's part of why they're so good. Same kids running the same plays for twelve years instead of four. They hit the Katy weight room in freshmen year and come out men.

And no your sop story doesn't phase me, we ALL took in Katrina refugees. The area included in the Katy district is full of generous people.
Posted by lsuandsaintsfan
Houston, Texas
Member since Apr 2005
569 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:57 am to
Went to school in katy isd not katy high school though. While there some dumbass kid moved to transfer in to play for katy only problem was he didn't move to a neighborhood zoned for katy. Played a year at a different katy isd school then moved the next year to be in an area zoned for katy. What a fricking idiot
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:00 am to
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The school can't help the talent around them and one good example is Aledo who is with a bunch of Ft. Worth ISD schools, Weatherford and Granbury. You have to deal with the hand your dealt, it's not the school's fault.


Aledo recruits big time.

The high school I went to was a big feeder school to the Southlakes and Aledos of the area. Any time we had a good sophomore player, their parents would suddenly get a new job in Aledo ISD or Southlake ISD. It was like clockwork.

One of my teammates when I was in high school was Sophomore of the Year in our district... he had a single mother. All of a sudden she gets a job in Southlake ISD and can move to Southlake(not a cheap place to live). He plays for Southlake his next 2 years.

It's shady but also legal, sadly. But it only works in schools with one high school in the district. If there were multiple high schools you imagine the others would cry foul, so I am interested in how Katy can pull it off without the other Katy ISD schools getting mad.

Winning high school football is all about the system. It's not about coaching, or talent. It's about execution. When you have Southlake and Aledo being able to run their system starting in 1st grade, its a huge advantage. Throw in the fact that they poach good players from more disadvantaged schools, that's why they win. Euless Trinity is the only exception, but the only reason they are good is because they have a large population of polynesians living in their area so they have massive offensive and defensive lines every single year.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:04 am to
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I'd guess an eligibility issue.


You don't have to guess since it says so
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