re: University of Arizona defends overuse of pitching staff because his players nap

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But I do feel like increasing scholarships would help the issue.

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Are you gonna have any more SP on your roster than now if they had scholarships? Its not like kids would get any additional playing time.

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And you also got kids in HS getting TJ to strengthen the ligament without needing the surgery.

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That's bullshite, no doctor is going to do a TJ surgery without UCL damage.

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There is a study out there also I will need to find it.

But there's also a report that travel ball/youth ball leading to increased injuries.

Show me where a doctor performed tommy johns on a HS player who didn't need it in that article.

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But there's also a report that travel ball/youth ball leading to increased injuries.

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I believe it...because they are overused.

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But there's also a report that travel ball/youth ball leading to increased injuries.

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Serious question, do you honestly think that a report showing overthrowing leads to more injury in younger players is going to help you argue against pitch counts?

I do not think it is pitch counts that are making these guys arm wear out. It is bad coaching and pitch selection. Players are taught throw sliders and etc at too young of age, then they use them in games and do damage to an immature arm.

There is a philosophy that you need to condition your arm rather than limit it.

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I do not think it is pitch counts that are making these guys arm wear out. It is bad coaching and pitch selection.

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That's fine, people disagree with science all the time. I'm sure you enjoy that earth is both flat and the center of the universe.

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Point Loma Nazarene University.

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I hear there sports science program is cutting edge.

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I agree pitch selection is not helping, but I don't know what else to say about overuse. It's not an opinion. It's fact, overuse of the throwing arm increases the risk for injury, significantly.

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I'd imagine the studies are focused almost universally on pitch count and not pitch selection, and I'm sure it is difficult to isolate other factors considering no two players are alike, but I'd argue that mechanics and pitch selection are better indicators than a pure pitch count. Granted, I don't know how you isolate those two, but pitch counts seem like the lazy way out so to speak.

My theory based on anecdotal evidence is that a youth player who is overworked is also very likely to be the youth player who is throwing curve balls at a young age and a blistering pace. You can say the overuse will lead to an injury, but I think it is more likely that the pitch selection will lead to injury, but that player just so happens to throw a lot of pitches too.

Mechanics also play a huge part in it, hence the "effortless" delivery scouts want in starting pitchers. The better your mechanics, the more you can throw without tiring, and the less like you are to injure yourself.