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re: Tom Brady: Trump's comments were divisive

Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:00 am to
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:00 am to
He never banned anything, he simply encouraged the NFL and her owners to discipline those who don't stand at attention during the Anthem, 45's not stupid bro chill
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158761 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:03 am to
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Trump has not accomplished one thing. Mitch made Gorsuch possible, over 2 years.

When your biggest accomplishment is that NK has not nuked Guam yet, you suck. Bigly.
No tax reform.
No improved health care.
No reduction in costs of drugs.
No infrastructure bill


#MAGA though....
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:05 am to
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He never banned anything, he simply encouraged the NFL and her owners to discipline those who don't stand at attention during the Anthem
Sure. Just like he can focus on the various policies, and encourage their attention and passage.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:17 am to
Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:
The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:19 am to
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That's not real. There's no rule in the NFL about the National Anthem


Correct, it's not in the NFL rulebook. It's in the NFL operations manual.

Look it up dumbass.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:22 am to
Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:
The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:22 am to
Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:
The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:23 am to
Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:
The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:25 am to
Posting the same bullshite over and over isn't going to make it true
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:38 am to
Look it up.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:00 pm to
I can't, because it doesn't exist. If you are so sure that it's true, how about you provide a link?
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12405 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:06 pm to
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fundamental American values(the flag, the Anthem)


The flag and the anthem are not fundamental American values. They are symbols.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:58 pm to
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Nothing more divisive than a group of millionaires shitting on a Country that men and woman died for.


1 guy took a knee to protest police brutality against blacks. A bunch of conservative snowflakes make up this crap about "shitting"'on the country and the military. If people had just ignored Kaepernick and commented that his protest was inappropriate the issue would have gone away a long time ago.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:01 pm to
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He never banned anything, he simply encouraged the NFL and her owners to discipline those who don't stand at attention during the Anthem


That is not a role for the President. He swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, not the anthem or the flag. The first amendment gives everyone with the right to peacefully protest. The highest law enforcement official should not be calling them vulgar names or suggesting actions by their employers.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8184 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:02 pm to
Seriously. The irony of it all is that the very people who are most incensed about the kneeling are the most responsible for making it happen.

It's a peaceful , non-disruptive protest, the only way it has any effect is if people let it get to them and make them super angry. The media is only reporting it because people care about it and are watching. The more people lash out and make a big deal about the protests, the more players will participate because it's working. It's drawing attention.

Had people just ignored Kaepernick from the beginning this never would've happened
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8184 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:03 pm to
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He never banned anything, he simply encouraged the NFL and her owners to discipline those who don't stand at attention during the Anthem


The President is using his political power to lean on private employers and get them to act a certain way towards their employees? good to see Trump is upholding long held tenets of conservatism
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:07 pm to
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That is not a role for the President. He swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, not the anthem or the flag. The first amendment gives everyone with the right to peacefully protest. The highest law enforcement official should not be calling them vulgar names or suggesting actions by their employers.


Well that's your position regarding what he should say and you're certainly entitled to that, we differ in that regard but he's not legally prohibited from saying what he said and I'd like to point out that "should" is an incredibly different term than "shall" regarding what a POTUS does.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84094 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:10 pm to
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That is not a role for the President


Political commentary is not the role of football players, yet here we are.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Well that's your position regarding what he should say and you're certainly entitled to that, we differ in that regard but he's not legally prohibited from saying what he said and I'd like to point out that "should" is an incredibly different term than "shall" regarding what a POTUS does


Spare me the semantics. The First Amendment is pretty clear regarding the role of the government regarding speech. The President "suggesting" actions by private employers regarding speech or protest is a dangerous precedent. Now if a hot mike caught Trump in private making those comments then your argument could hold some water, but the President making those comments in a official capacity is somewhere between inappropriate and dangerous.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:29 pm to
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inappropriate and dangerous.


But it isn't illegal or unconstitutional, and that's where your argument is defeated
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