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re: Tom Brady: Trump's comments were divisive
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:32 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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Political commentary is not the role of football players, yet here we are
Wow, the ignorance in the statement is staggering. Maybe you should read the Constitution instead of waving the flag for a change.
The First Amendment gives all Americans, including rich football players the right to say whatever they want. It also explicitly prohibits the government from banning or punishing people for thei speech. So no, the President speaking in an official capacity has no business "suggesting" citizens in a So called free country should be punished because he disagrees with the methods of protest
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:34 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Wow, the ignorance in the statement is staggering.
It's a mirror of your statement, so what does that say about you?
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The First Amendment gives all Americans, including rich football players the right to say whatever they want.
And anyone, including the President can comment on their commenting. Funny that you only seem to care about a certain group's freedoms.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:36 pm to LNCHBOX
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Funny that you only seem to care about a certain group's freedoms.
Discrimination!
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:36 pm to Cap Crunch
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Posting the same bullshite over and over isn't going to make it true
It's true, but the key word is it "may" result in discipline. The NFL is free to do as it pleases in this regard.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The First Amendment gives all Americans, including rich football players the right to say whatever they want. It also explicitly prohibits the government from banning or punishing people for thei speech. So no, the President speaking in an official capacity has no business "suggesting" citizens in a So called free country should be punished because he disagrees with the methods of protest
The first amendment keeps them from being thrown in jail due to their speech. Trump can suggest all day people shouldn't be employed.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:41 pm to Jcorye1
Honestly guys, this is the main reason I have an issue with this. I unfortunately think the "unfairness" and "injustice" line is used as a crutch from the majority of the minority community. Not all, but most. And when you tell someone since they are little they won't succeed and nothing is their fault, they have no chance
Maybe the coaches and parents in this photo mean well and will make these kids not have a victim mentality, but I don't feel good about it
Maybe the coaches and parents in this photo mean well and will make these kids not have a victim mentality, but I don't feel good about it
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:42 pm to lsupride87
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Maybe the coaches and parents in this photo mean well and will make these kids not have a victim mentality
Good fricking luck with that.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:42 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:They're both free to comment as they see fit, but one of them is the president of the USA, so his words have a bit more gravitas, no?
And anyone, including the President can comment on their commenting. Funny that you only seem to care about a certain group's freedoms.
Regardless, the president suggesting a private business suppress folks with whom he disagrees is a bit concerning. Is he allowed to say it though? Yes.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:43 pm to Jcorye1
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The first amendment keeps them from being thrown in jail due to their speech. Trump can suggest all day people shouldn't be employed.
Do you not realize how dangerous and stupid that is? The host of the Apprentice can suggest whatever he wants, the President is duty bound to uphold the Constitution it's not very far from suggesting to demanding people be silenced.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:44 pm to Jcorye1
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The first amendment keeps them from being thrown in jail due to their speech. Trump can suggest all day people shouldn't be employed
Sure he can, but it's not exactly a presidential way of behaving.
It's a bit tyrannical, IMO.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:45 pm to Jcorye1
Jcorye1 or Pride, serious question is there actual video of where he said this in Alabama? I have just seen it written but not a video.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:45 pm to slackster
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They're both free to comment as they see fit, but one of them is the president of the USA, so his words have a bit more gravitas, no?
Relevance to the discussion I was having?
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Regardless, the president suggesting a private business suppress folks with whom he disagrees is a bit concerning. Is he allowed to say it though? Yes.
If these guys want the attention by kneeling in protest, I don't care if he responds. Not sure why him being President matters.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:47 pm to Bench McElroy
cuck.
I guarantee you that's horseshite. in fact, that's why he's making this statement.
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Brady was asked if he had ever had conversations with teammates who had questions about his friendship with Trump, and he said that has not happened.
I guarantee you that's horseshite. in fact, that's why he's making this statement. Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:48 pm to LNCHBOX
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If these guys want the attention by kneeling in protest, I don't care if he responds. Not sure why him being President matters.
President wants someone fired because he doesn't like their commentary. Suggests the private company fire the employee. Company follows through and fires employee due to president's request.
You wouldn't have an issue with that, regardless of the political party of said president?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:49 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's a mirror of your statement, so what does that say about you?
Nothing, you seem to not understand the difference between football players and The President.
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And anyone, including the President can comment on their commenting
He was not just commenting he was suggesting they be punished. He holds an office that gives him enormous power and the ability to influence things that regular citizens can not. The whole point of the First Amendment is to allow citizens to criticize the government. When the highest elected official calls for people to lose their jobs because he does not like their methods of protest we are no longer a nation of laws.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:49 pm to slackster
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President wants someone fired because he doesn't like their commentary.
Does that sound familiar?
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You wouldn't have an issue with that, regardless of the political party of said president?
The left has used that tactic forever, so yea I'd love it if it went both ways.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:50 pm to LNCHBOX
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Not sure why him being President matters.
That is unbelievable
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:50 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Do you not realize how dangerous and stupid that is? The host of the Apprentice can suggest whatever he wants, the President is duty bound to uphold the Constitution it's not very far from suggesting to demanding people be silenced.
It's stupid to argue he can't do it because "reasons". I don't think it's presidential, and it irritates the hell out of me, but to then turn around and infer he can't do it because of the first amendment is just not true.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:50 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Nothing, you seem to not understand the difference between football players and The President.
They're both Americans, at least I think so.
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He was not just commenting he was suggesting they be punished.
That's called a comment, braniac. Is he not entitled to his opinion?
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The whole point of the First Amendment is to allow citizens to criticize the government
He didn't say they couldn't, and he himself did not keep them from doing it. You suck at this.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:54 pm to slackster
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Sure he can, but it's not exactly a presidential way of behaving.
It's a bit tyrannical, IMO.
Oh I don't disagree with you in the slightest.
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