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re: There is no such thing as a "quality" loss
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:28 pm to Srbtiger06
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:28 pm to Srbtiger06
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:31 pm to Srbtiger06
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Winning 11 games in the Big 12 is more impressive than 11 games in the SEC. Totally.
Depends on the schedule but usually this is correct.
The frick?
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:33 pm to LSUBoo
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The frick?
I worded that bad.
He was being sarcastic and I was agreeing with his line of thinking, not the sarcastic post
USUALLY 11 SEC wins > 11 B12 wins. Usually.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:34 pm to Srbtiger06
I agree with the OP's general sentiment in that who you beat should be more important than who you lose to.
I'd take an 11-1 team with 4 wins over top 25 teams and a loss to an unranked team over an 11-1 team with 1 win over top 25 teams but their loss was to a top 25 team.
I'd take an 11-1 team with 4 wins over top 25 teams and a loss to an unranked team over an 11-1 team with 1 win over top 25 teams but their loss was to a top 25 team.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:38 pm to Majin Buu
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No different from the "well we're undefeated in regulation" talk in 07.
Yeah, but that year was a cluster frick. We still won our division/conference and beat several really really good teams. Also, you couldn't really make a legit case for anyone else to play Ohio State that year.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:38 pm to benhamin5555
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but they have not beaten any great teams
EVERY WIN IS THE SAME THOUGH!
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:39 pm to lsu2006
quote:Right. Because the SEC was worse.
We still won our division/conference
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:43 pm to LSUBoo
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I'd take an 11-1 team with 4 wins over top 25 teams and a loss to an unranked team over an 11-1 team with 1 win over top 25 teams but their loss was to a top 25 team.
Oh no doubt. In that scenario it shouldn't even be close. You wanna be the best you gotta beat the best...not lose to them.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:45 pm to Srbtiger06
quality loss = moral victory
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:46 pm to benhamin5555
I don't justify a damn thing. Alabama won crystal in 11 after one loss season. LSU won in 07 with 2. IS the 07 any less a MNC than 11?
Frankly I don't care. LSU fans and few NtY wackos are the only ones still crying.
Frankly I don't care. LSU fans and few NtY wackos are the only ones still crying.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:47 pm to Srbtiger06
2011 Bama goes 1-1 against quality teams and loses their division, but the "quality loss" and "eyeball test" arguments get them into a national title game (along with being a college football blueblood/media darling) when they weren't the best team of 6 over a 12 game sample size.
Meanwhile a conference champion with a better resume gets left out because their double overtime loss was worse.
Pretty sure that's the OP's rationale, and it makes perfect sense to anyone without a script A next to their username.
Meanwhile a conference champion with a better resume gets left out because their double overtime loss was worse.
Pretty sure that's the OP's rationale, and it makes perfect sense to anyone without a script A next to their username.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:54 pm to benhamin5555
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I would judge it based on who they each beat. If team A lost to App State but beat a top 10 team during the season, but Team B lost to Bama and didn't have any marquee wins, then Team A would deserve it more.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:59 pm to genro
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Right. Because the SEC was worse.
OK? Still won it.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:03 pm to benhamin5555
You are one thread-startin mofo.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:07 pm to boom roasted
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You are one thread-startin mofo.
He, and Fox Mulder.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:19 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:It looked like they were in January
when they weren't the best team of 6
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:25 pm to stat19
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LSU fans and few NtY wackos are the only ones still crying
It's amazing that Bama fans wonder why everyone hates them.
They like to pretend it is because they win, but it just isn't.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:29 pm to LSU Piston
see if this makes sense... there's no such thing as a quality loss if you're a BCSNC contending team. you shouldn't lose. Period.
but some losses are more quality than others. I mean Alabama lost the Iron Bowl, but it's hard to even think of it as a loss, bc it took so much to beat them
but some losses are more quality than others. I mean Alabama lost the Iron Bowl, but it's hard to even think of it as a loss, bc it took so much to beat them
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:41 pm to chalmetteowl
Perhaps, there are no "good" or "quality" losses.
But there are "bad" losses.
But there are "bad" losses.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:48 pm to benhamin5555
I think it does matter who you lose to. It's dumb to say otherwise. 2011 Bama just acted like their loss was a great achievement and trumped other considerations like wins and schedule strength.
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