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the fair catch free kick rule...

Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:22 pm
Question... What do y'all believe are the odds that someone in the NFL gets a chance and converts one this season?

It hasn't been done in 40 years, but NFL kickers are getting stronger and stronger legs, and people screaming for Belichick to try one in the last Super Bowl have made people aware of the rule.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:25 pm to
In case anyone is like me and is wondering what the frick the OP is mumbling about, here is a LINK
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:35 pm to
No tee allowed?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:39 pm to
It's such a situational thing that even if you had the kicker strong enough to do it, even the opportunity would only come up once in a blue moon
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

's such a situational thing that even if you had the kicker strong enough to do it, even the opportunity would only come up once in a blue moon


right, but stronger legs extend the parameters of the situation... Damn near every kicker in the league has to be able to make 55-60 yards now, and you can run up to these like a kickoff with no rush.

And Belichick worried about ATL bringing it back, if he was me and they did that, I would just tip my cap and say they earned it
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Damn near every kicker in the league has to be able to make 55-60 yards now,


And some longer with no D-line or rush so you can boom it low. 75 yards? Wasn't that the distance of the kick pondered in the Super Bowl?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:28 pm to
At his peak Sebastian Janikowski could hit 70 yarders without a rush in warmups. And that was with a holder, not a tee.

Mason Crosby came within a couple feet of hitting a 69 yard free kick several years ago. In Denver he probably would have made it by several yards, hell of a kick.

LINK
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:33 pm to
I thought a Denver kicker had a shot at this years ago, and ended up hitting a knuckler that went 30 yards and about 10 yards off the ground.

Had he hit it, he would of broken dempsys record at that time, which i believe has been tied/broken 2 or 3 times now.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:37 pm to
They usually end up being knuckle balls because kickers are largely inexperienced kicking from that distance and try to drive them by striking the ball higher.

The reality is you have to strike it with enough loft to maintain the trajectory, and only a handful of kickers ever have had the raw leg power to send a kick like that 65+ yards through the air.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:40 pm to
They still let you kick off a tee for the free kick, correct? Or did they change it?

It's been so long since i seen it done.
Posted by LSU4ever2002
Member since Sep 2009
642 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:42 pm to
We won a game like this in highschool.
It was a tied game and they punted from there own 10 with under 20 sec left. Short punt, fair caught around the 35. Nailed the kick for the win.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

They still let you kick off a tee for the free kick, correct?


Correctomundo
Posted by BlueWaffleHouse
LA
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 7:02 pm to
If college had the rule I think we would see it attempted more often, (only HS and NFL have the rule for some reason) since its so situational, where a team has to be punting very very late in the 2nd or 4th quarters. Ball realistically needs to be on your own 40-45 or in to have a chance in HS or college
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:51 pm to
If Donovan McNabb doesn't know games can end in a tie, I'm gonna guess there's a handful of coaches (assistants included) who don't even know the rule exists.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:24 pm to
We had a kid kick one from 64 yards last season to end the half and made it. Probably with 6-7 yds to spare from my vantage point. Kicked off a block though. New Georgia HS record that everyone local was bragging about. I always have to throw in the caveat that he did it off a tee with no threat of pressure to be blocked. Wasn't a real FG situation in my eyes. There are a lot of HS kids who could make that today.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35536 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:41 pm to
LINK

Cofer looked like the perfect opportunity in the 1988 playoffs.

Catch a punt on the 50 just before the end of the half.

But it was terrible.

And a lot of attempts have gone just like that. Why can kickers kick-off and kick FG's but knuckle-ball these free kicks?

The longest one made of the modern era was 45 yards.

The longest one made in history was 52 yards and that was in 1964 with the toe punch! And it was made by Paul Hornung.

This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 11:42 pm
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:42 pm to
Yeah ok
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35536 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:52 am to
Also, a rule people don't realize is after a safety...a free kick, even if punted...is treated like a total kick-off live ball.

The most bizarre onside kick recovery you will ever see

Rule 6-1-5 states that “Any K (kicking team) player may recover a free kick if it has both touched the ground and goes beyond the plane of R’s (receiving team) free kick line (which is 10 yards from the kickoff line).

Back to the fair catch free kick rule.

In high school, you can still free kick even after you play an offensive snap if there is a pass interference on the play. And then you can free kick after the penalty enforcement.

These choices remain if a dead-ball foul occurs prior to the down, or a foul of an inadvertent whistle occurs during the down and the down is replayed.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:18 am to
quote:

Also, a rule people don't realize is after a safety...a free kick, even if punted...is treated like a total kick-off live ball.
It's ballsy, but probably the best time to catch a team off guard for an onside kick.
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