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The ATL Thread: Braves building $662M spring training facility in St. Pete, FL

Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:37 pm
Opening in 2018 assuming they finalize a deal. Much better location than Disney.

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Listed as the team's architect is Populous, one of the nation's leading firms for sports architecture and the the same firm that's building the Braves' new Cobb County Stadium. The proposal says the site plan can be modified to host two Major League Baseball teams for spring training, which is a trend in the sport.

The proposed complex would be much like Disney's "Wide World of Sports" complex near Orlando, where the team is under contract for one more year. That facility includes much more than its baseball fields, and the proposed "SportsPark" would be an "international destination facility" including facilities to host tournaments in a dozen sports, including basketball, soccer and swimming.

The proposal would include a 10,000-seat baseball stadium with berm seating for an additional 1,000 fans, a 15,000-seat fieldhouse for basketball or other indoor events, a track and field facility with 20,000 seats, an aquatic center with a pool and hockey rink and a 200,000-square foot dormitory that could house 800 people.

Part of the 258-page proposal is a letter from Braves president John Schuerholz to Sheffield, confirming "extensive discussions" about the proposal and "significant interest" in "exploring a partnership." The Braves are "especially interested," he writes, "given the youth sports initiative and positive impact it will provide to kids of all ages, backgrounds and circumstances." Schuerholtz said construction could begin by next year with the facility set for completion by the 2018 season.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:39 pm to

Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:49 pm to
badass
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:55 pm to
That's pretty awesome
Posted by ChurchillVFW
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:06 pm to
Still would be 1/2 full. Don't know too many snowbirds who winter in Florida and drive 6 hours north. St Petersburg has more northeast teams fans that atlanta. Rays sell out v Red sox, Yankees, Mets etc.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25852 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:13 pm to
The draw for the Wide World of Sports is Disney. I don't think you can replicate that in St. Pete. I don't think people will want to flock to St. Pete like they do to Disney.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
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15,000-seat fieldhouse for basketball or other indoor events, a track and field facility with 20,000 seats


What? Why?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:26 pm to
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10,000-seat baseball stadium


They can lease it to the Rays during the regular season.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:32 pm to
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The draw for the Wide World of Sports is Disney. I don't think you can replicate that in St. Pete. I don't think people will want to flock to St. Pete like they do to Disney.



I don't think they will have a ton of issues. Phils next door in Clearwater and Yankees across the bay in Tampa have no issues. They will probably be playing those teams very frequently as well.

The real reason for this is there are no teams left in the middle of the state outside of the Tigers, who may end up sharing this facility with the Braves. This will make travel much, much easier.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:35 pm to
Let me preface this by saying I love the Braves, but Atlanta sports suck too damn bad to be spending this kind of money on facilities.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:37 pm to
Gotta train those 70 win teams in style, I guess.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:37 pm to
It always seemed like they put teams in places people might want to go on vacation to in spring. Then there is the Tigers in freaking Lakeland.

It makes sense for teams to operate out of just the two coasts and not central florida. But what is this facility for exactly? Just reading the article it looks like someone wants an IMG academy type place built.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:39 pm to
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The proposal would include a 10,000-seat baseball stadium


Would be perfect for the Rays...
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

But what is this facility for exactly? Just reading the article it looks like someone wants an IMG academy type place built.


I was wondering the same thing. There is mention of Gary Sheffield's foundation/academy. Is he wanting to start his own prep school/youth sports academy here or something?
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13914 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:45 pm to
Attendance will be fine. Who else is gonna use it? That building can't just be single purpose.

But good lord that's quite a price tag
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:48 pm to
Saw that when I googled, I'm going to look into it more later. But those numbers just sounded ridiculous, a 20,000 seat track stadium sounds like a football stadium.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25852 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

I don't think they will have a ton of issues. Phils next door in Clearwater and Yankees across the bay in Tampa have no issues. They will probably be playing those teams very frequently as well.

The real reason for this is there are no teams left in the middle of the state outside of the Tigers, who may end up sharing this facility with the Braves. This will make travel much, much easier.



I'm not really concerned about the Braves draw. How do you support the rest of that huge complex without Disney World?
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:32 pm to
Thread title is misleading, vol. This isn't finalized or even that close right now.

Here is a story written back in April about the site

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But lurking beneath the grassy surface is a construction engineer's nightmare: a layer of garbage, perhaps as thick as 60 feet in some places, emitting methane gas and creating an unstable building surface. Though the location of the former Toytown landfill is prime, the roughly 25 years worth of buried household trash, construction debris, yard waste and sludge takes the sheen off a site the county has been trying for years to sell or lease.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6364 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

he real reason for this is there are no teams left in the middle of the state outside of the Tigers, who may end up sharing this facility with the Braves. This will make travel much, much easier.


Aren't the Astros still in Kissimmee? I know there have been talks of them teaming up with the Nationals on a new facility, but I haven't heard anything in a while.
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