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re: Steve Kerr: The Case for the 20-Year-Old Age Limit in the NBA
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:08 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:08 am to ProjectP2294
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Why are so many people in thread focusing on when a player is physically ready for the NBA when the article in the OP specifically talks about making kids mentally and emotionally ready for the NBA?
The academy model prepares kids to be mentally and emotionally ready for the NBA.
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:09 am to ProjectP2294
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Why are so many people in thread focusing on when a player is physically ready for the NBA when the article in the OP specifically talks about making kids mentally and emotionally ready for the NBA?
that's not something you can determine beforehand, and even if it were it's not the NBA's decision to make whether or not they're emotionally ready to go
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:10 am to Sophandros
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The academy model prepares kids to be mentally and emotionally ready for the NBA.
So does college, except the NBA doesn't have to fund that. Which was another part of Kerr's point, the business side from the NBA standpoint.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:12 am to HT713
quote:yes it is since they are the employer.
even if it were it's not the NBA's decision to make whether or not they're emotionally ready to go
Drafting and signing a player is an investment and the investor deserves any and all information to assess the risk
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:15 am to ProjectP2294
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So does college, except the NBA doesn't have to fund that. Which was another part of Kerr's point, the business side from the NBA standpoint.
And the colleges make a lot of money off these kids.
I simply believe that from an ethical perspective (and Kerr seems to be trying to play to that...), an academy system is superior to the current model.
ETA: Kerr's argument is basically that someone is doing a disservice to the kids in the league by not intervening and looking out for their best interests by forcing them to "grow up" in college.
I happen to believe that the current system is also an injustice bestowed upon these kids, and mandating that they wait until 20 or any other arbitrary age without any other options is performing a greater injustice.
This post was edited on 5/8/12 at 10:18 am
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:16 am to Pilot Tiger
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Drafting and signing a player is an investment and the investor deserves any and all information to assess the risk
this
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:19 am to Pilot Tiger
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yes it is since they are the employer.
using that logic an employer can discriminate on any basis.
Look back on the guys that came out of high school... do you think their careers would've gone much different if they'd spent a meaningless season in college?
Lebron
Tmac
Dwight Howard
Andrew Bynum
Al Jefferson
Amar'e
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:20 am to Truculent Typist
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The Case for the 20-Year-Old Age Limit in the NBA
There is no good case. No argument can make me overlook the fact that guys like LeBron, Durant, Bryant, etc. have no business wasting that much time in college.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:22 am to HT713
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using that logic an employer can discriminate on any basis.
mother
of
god
quote:I am not advocating Kerr's opinion really. I'm just defending the fact that the NBA has the right to make decisions based on a player's physical and mental maturity
Look back on the guys that came out of high school... do you think their careers would've gone much different if they'd spent a meaningless season in college?
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:23 am to corndeaux
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I, Steve Kerr, really enjoyed college 30 years ago. Since I needed it to advance my career and I enjoy reliving those days, all college basketball players must have my exact experience.
He sure didn't like it when he played ASU after his dad died. We were complete and total trash that day....probably the lowest day ever for Sun Devils.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:23 am to HT713
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Lebron
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Andrew Bynum
two of the most emotionally and intellectually stunted human beings I've ever seen. They have not matured mentally past high school. A year or two in college would definitely have helped in that department. But you don't care about that and fail to see the carryover onto the court so I'm wasting my time with you.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:24 am to Truculent Typist
let em go pro whenever they want. there really haven't been that many flameouts amongst the HS entries, or not substantially more than guys who go to school and end up busts. some of those guys were hellbent on going even if everyone told them they wouldn't be drafted high (hello Korleone Young).
Soph's academy idea is a cool one though, it may actually fix some of what the AAU has broken.
Soph's academy idea is a cool one though, it may actually fix some of what the AAU has broken.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:25 am to Pilot Tiger
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yes it is since they are the employer.
Drafting and signing a player is an investment and the investor deserves any and all information to assess the risk
If they do make this rule, I hope they can at least admit all the stuff about education, development, and all the other reasons for making players wait is garbage and they're just trying to protect themselves from their own bad investments.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:26 am to ProjectP2294
Right there with you Project and you can add Dwight to that with his premadonna act he is going through now
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:27 am to Pilot Tiger
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I'm just defending the fact that the NBA has the right to make decisions based on a player's physical and mental maturity
of course they have the right to, I'm not arguing that. I'm saying it's a shitty decision to make.... hell if they're the ones who sign the checks then they can tell them to wear ballerina costumes on the sidelines.
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two of the most emotionally and intellectually stunted human beings I've ever seen.
I've gotta assume you know them, because that's a strong statement to make based on just seeing someone in games /press conferences/commercials
This post was edited on 5/8/12 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:28 am to ohiovol
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I hope they can at least admit all the stuff about education, development, and all the other reasons for making players wait is garbage and they're just trying to protect themselves from their own bad investments.
I would have zero problem if they came out and said this.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:38 am to HT713
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f course they have the right to, I'm not arguing that. I'm saying it's a shitty decision to make.... hell if they're the ones who sign the checks then they can tell them to wear ballerina costumes on the sidelines.
I don't think you understand how the NBA works. The NBA itself doesn't pay the players, the teams do. The players are really contracted out by the teams(reason the players have a union), to provide a very specialized service to that team. It's the teams job do evaluate that player or players, the league only sets the guidelines.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:40 am to BIGDAB
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the league only sets the guidelines.
that's what this entire thread is about. The NBA runs the show so they can do whatever the hell they want, but I still think it's a moronic thing to do.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:47 am to HT713
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The NBA runs the show so they can do whatever the hell they want, but I still think it's a moronic thing to do.
The NBA doesn't have a monopoly on professional basketball. If the prospective players don't like the rules they can go play somewhere else.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:47 am to BIGDAB
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The NBA doesn't have a monopoly on professional basketball
In this country they do
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