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re: Steph Curry named 2015 NBA MVP - Voting records within
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:10 am to RTR America
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:10 am to RTR America
are ya kidding? 
Most dominant big left n the playoffs and you asking if it matters?
Nice troll bro. FWIW yea Dwight played in 2 of the games.
Most dominant big left n the playoffs and you asking if it matters? Nice troll bro. FWIW yea Dwight played in 2 of the games.
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:10 am to c on z
Thompson and Leonard getting a vote hahahah
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:10 am to Boomshockalocka
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HOU could crack 65 wins
Move to "Fantasy Sports" board pls. RAed.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:11 am to RTR America
to be honest, everyone is a bad matchup for the Warriors. That is why I am proud of the fact that all 4 of our games were at least close. Hell, we won 10 of the 16 quarters.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:12 am to RTR America
Beverley has not been good defensively. Curry, like Lillard last year, would embarrass him I'm afraid. And a healthy Dwight will give Bogut fits. The Warriors will be the favorites, but the Rockets have a real chance. Curry can get his. He always does. The trick is keeping the other guys under control.
To answer my question, Dwight has only played two games against the Warriors and both of those were in probably his worst week injury wise, the one that made Houston decide to shut him down for two months.
To answer my question, Dwight has only played two games against the Warriors and both of those were in probably his worst week injury wise, the one that made Houston decide to shut him down for two months.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:13 am to saintsfan92612
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That is why I am proud of the fact that all 4 of our games were at least close.
yea keep telling yourself that bro. When a team is up 25 points and puts their scrubs in and you make a little run at the end You can't call that a close game. The outcome was never in doubt.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:14 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:To counter that, Curry had a higher PER, True Shooting %, Effective FG %, WS/48, Box Plus/Minus, Real Plus/Minus, Value Over Replacement Player. He also had a higher offensive rating (122 vs. 118) and lower defensive rating (101 vs 103) per 100 possessions.
Harden averaged 27.4 ppg compared to Curry's 23.8, Harden only had 0.7 less assists as a SG (7.7 to 7.0), Harden was more versatile defensively (he would often have success against 4's), more blocks, same steals, and Harden was relied upon WAY more than Curry, and Harden had more win shares.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:14 am to Boomshockalocka
Dwight must really mail it in during the regular season.
This year, he was hurt even when he was playing during the season.. so he looked really bad at times. I give him a pass for that.
But last year, he looked dominant in the playoffs. He took his game to a completely different level from the regular season.
Same thing this year.
So yeah, no Dwight or hurt Dwight compared to playoff Dwight is a huge difference.
I'm not saying the Rockets would beat the Warriors in the playoffs. I think the Warriors are the better team. But I wouldn't go by the regular season.
This year, he was hurt even when he was playing during the season.. so he looked really bad at times. I give him a pass for that.
But last year, he looked dominant in the playoffs. He took his game to a completely different level from the regular season.
Same thing this year.
So yeah, no Dwight or hurt Dwight compared to playoff Dwight is a huge difference.
I'm not saying the Rockets would beat the Warriors in the playoffs. I think the Warriors are the better team. But I wouldn't go by the regular season.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:15 am to RTR America
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Does it matter? It is a bad matchup regardless, especially without Beverly to guard Steph.
The Warriors have a perfectly constructed team. I would pick them to beat Houston in 6 but wouldn't be surprised if Houston won. I think the Rockets would be a better matchup than the Clippers though.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:15 am to saintsfan92612
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to be honest, everyone is a bad matchup for the Warriors.
This is just a fact. Nobody has two elite perimeter defenders. But I think Houston has things that can cause them problems as well. The Warriors didn't look invincible against the Pelicans at all. That was as close a 4 game series as you will see.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:15 am to Boomshockalocka
Who guards Steph? Jason Terry? Ariza?
Who guards Klay? Harden? Ariza?
Draymond is a much better version of whoever Houston throws out at the 4. It is a much better matchup for him defensively than AD and Zbo.
At this stage Dwight and Bogut is largely a push. Dwight is a much better rebounder but Bogut can really interrupt his rolling to the rim.
It is just a bad matchup. That showed during the season.
Who guards Klay? Harden? Ariza?
Draymond is a much better version of whoever Houston throws out at the 4. It is a much better matchup for him defensively than AD and Zbo.
At this stage Dwight and Bogut is largely a push. Dwight is a much better rebounder but Bogut can really interrupt his rolling to the rim.
It is just a bad matchup. That showed during the season.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:15 am to Boomshockalocka
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The outcome was never in doubt
Game 1 was the only one like this. We had 4th quarter leads in game 2 and 3 and we cut the lead down to 6 with 3 minutes left in game 4.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:18 am to SwaggerCopter
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Nobody has two elite perimeter defenders.
The Grizz do, but one has a broken face
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he Warriors didn't look invincible against the Pelicans at all. That was as close a 4 game series as you will see.
Because Anthony Davis was a terrible match up for them. He is too tall for Draymond and too quick for Bogut. Yet they still got the sweep.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:19 am to RTR America
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Who guards Steph? Jason Terry? Ariza?
I think Ariza does for stretches. Brewer can as well. But I wouldn't be shocked to see Harden guard him for stretches, and Harden can defend very well when focused. And there is no doubt how focused he'd be in that situation.
But none of this matters if the Rockets can't beat the Clippers. I know the Warriors series is already over, but Houston has a tough series here.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:21 am to buckeye_vol
quote:1. I don't like PER when trying to compare players at the top. PER in my opinion should be used as a general guideline to judge if a player is good or not. Meaning, if you have a PER of 25-30, that means you are a really good player. For example, the difference between a PER of 28.3 and 27.4 is meaningless. It doesn't mean one is better than the other.
To counter that, Curry had a higher PER, True Shooting %, Effective FG %, WS/48, Box Plus/Minus, Real Plus/Minus, Value Over Replacement Player. He also had a higher offensive rating (122 vs. 118) and lower defensive rating (101 vs 103) per 100 possessions.
2. Many of those advanced stats have a lot to do with the team the player plays on. I take them with a grain of salt. TS%, and EFG% are good stats.
3. Put Klay Thompson next to Harden instead of Patrick Beverley and see how much better his numbers look. Or put a comparable SG to Beverley next to Curry and see how his numbers look.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:21 am to RTR America
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The Grizz do, but one has a broken face
Correction: No team with a consistent offense has two elite perimeter defenders.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:21 am to Boomshockalocka
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yea keep telling yourself that bro. When a team is up 25 points and puts their scrubs in and you make a little run at the end You can't call that a close game. The outcome was never in doubt.
lol
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:21 am to SwaggerCopter
I must say I am extremely surprised.
I am not surprised that Curry won; I have no problem with best guy on the best team winning an award like this. I also think Curry is a top 5 overall player and is the main cog in that team. I am honestly shocked it was not much much closer than this. Whether you like Harden or not, he carried his team to 55 wins without Howard for half the games, without T. Jones for a large stretch, and without Beverly/D-Mo at the end of the year.
If you had told me Curry got 75 of the total 130 votes with Harden getting 50 I'd understand more. Harden getting 25 seems way too low
I am not surprised that Curry won; I have no problem with best guy on the best team winning an award like this. I also think Curry is a top 5 overall player and is the main cog in that team. I am honestly shocked it was not much much closer than this. Whether you like Harden or not, he carried his team to 55 wins without Howard for half the games, without T. Jones for a large stretch, and without Beverly/D-Mo at the end of the year.
If you had told me Curry got 75 of the total 130 votes with Harden getting 50 I'd understand more. Harden getting 25 seems way too low
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:23 am to SwaggerCopter
Dear god man you don't have to get butt hurt about every post
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:26 am to GynoSandberg
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The outcome was never in doubt.
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The outcome was never in doubt.
Can't be a close game if you don't have a chance to win.
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