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re: Seahawks QB Russell Wilson isn’t worth $100 million

Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by arcalades
USA
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:30 pm to
Wilson isn't worth that much, but the position is, so he'll get it.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:31 pm to
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Wilson isn't worth that much, but the position is, so he'll get it.


What does this even mean?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30571 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:32 pm to
Wilson's contract will be based on future production, not just current production. Wilson is a young player and therefore expected to improve, and the Seahawks will pay him more because they know that and so does the rest of the NFL
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112327 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:33 pm to
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I have no idea what you're trying to say. He's worth X amount of money in free agency. That's his value.


I'm agreeing with that. But the Seahawks themselves are not required to be the ones to pay that. His value to them might be different (it's not in this case, but in general it can be)
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:35 pm to
They need to sign Lynch back & improve the weapons around RW.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:35 pm to
Well, yeah obviously.

And chances are that he would get more from the free market, that's just the nature of the system.

He could choose to take a pay cut to stay in a system that works well for him and hope to make up the difference via endorsements, branding, etc.

But that doesn't change his free market value (but it wouldn't allow him to put a real number on it).
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:37 pm to
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Smart teams compare players to their value within their organization, not to what the market will pay, which for some players, those numbers can be drastically different.


Smart teams also think about the cost of replacement. Odds of them lucking into a another guy on $700K contract that'll get them to 2 Super Bowls is low.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:37 pm to
DP
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30571 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:38 pm to
There is a salary cap. They're gonna shell out on defense, they can't also shell out on offense. They'll pay Wilson but I think Lynch gets a better deal on the market and they don't upgrade at receiver. They have too many players to pay on defense as is, and Wilson is a $15-20 million cap hit to the nuts
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:41 pm to
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He could choose to take a pay cut to stay in a system that works well for him and hope to make up the difference via endorsements, branding, etc.

I think this will be the end result.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:45 pm to
Exactly.

But they already have most of their key defensive guys signed.

And they don't have any UFAs this year. It all happens next year.

IMO if they're smart they let beastmode walk, and sign Wilson to a slight discount (if they can).

RBs are a dime a dozen. Not all are Beastmode, but many are close for a better bargain and Lynch is getting older and is a power back. It's doubtful he ages well.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119144 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:49 pm to
My statements did not contradict each other.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141916 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:52 pm to
I've been waiting for this thread

and this reply:
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So the black quarterback can't get a 100 million dollar contract but white quarterbacks who are worse than him can
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:56 pm to
Russell has led that team to countless comeback wins. It was Russell who went down the field and scored the td vs. Green Bay. He did the same thing vs. Denver earlier in the season. He has scored 30+ countless times with no weapons other than Lynch.

Seattle wasn't shot before Wilson got there.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:57 pm to
You know how I do it Kafka.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:57 pm to
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My statements did not contradict each other.


Yes. They did.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:58 pm to
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RBs are a dime a dozen. Not all are Beastmode, but many are close for a better bargain and Lynch is getting older and is a power back. It's doubtful he ages well.

He's one of two RBs that are still worth paying [Adrian Peterson being the other]. SEA needs to improve the receiving & offensive line they have.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:59 pm to
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They have too many players to pay on defense as is


Or they can continue to Draft well and replace the vets with younger players.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 9:00 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:02 pm to
This is a DEEP running back class. They should draft one of those guys in the second round.

What they do in the first round will be interesting but I expect a heavy offensive draft for them.
Posted by ZeeDustin
Fair Oaks Ranch
Member since Dec 2006
11281 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:14 pm to
What was Seattles defensive ranks before and after Wilson. I'm pretty sure they were #1 the last 2 and top 5 his rookie. Before that they weren't. That's why they weren't shite. Not Russell. Flynn could have led them to a super bowl. And before U say no he couldn't. 2 words. Colin Kap.
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