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re: Rumor: Houston Rockets seeing if there is a trade market for Ty Lawson
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:58 am to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:58 am to Boomshockalocka
this is good stuff in here.
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:05 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:And they show that you are incorrect. They are essentially toss-ups and Houston may have a slight advantage. If you don't value some semblance of objectivity and accuracy, then that's pretty telling.
say 9 times out of ten meaning "usually; almost always" and he jumps in with standard deviation and advanced formulas
If you don't want people to criticize yours words, maybe you should stop using such strong and absolute statements, and stop presenting unsubstantiated opinions as objective facts.
There is a big difference between "Team A will definitely beat Team B" and "I think Team A will probably beat Team B." You tend to make statements similar to the former; that type of statement is much easier to criticize.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:09 am to buckeye_vol
9 out of 10 means most of the time, not literally 9 of 10 or 90 of 100. 
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:12 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
9 out of 10 means most of the time, not literally 9 of 10
wat
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:12 am to buckeye_vol
quote:You're assuming they stay at the same W-L record for the whole season based on the record after 17 games
If you don't value some semblance of objectivity and accuracy, then that's pretty telling.
That wasn't my assumption I said in that post that when they get all guys back which will be soon. If you're projection the whole season off of 17 games that isn't the best way to go about doing it. If you don't have a better way then it just shows the uselessness of stats sometimes. Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:13 am to Fun Bunch
Defintion of 9 time out of 10 from dictionary.com brother:
It's a figure of speech who knew we had mathematicians here that will argue a figure of speech.
nine times out of ten
Fig. usually; almost always.
It's a figure of speech who knew we had mathematicians here that will argue a figure of speech.
nine times out of ten
Fig. usually; almost always.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:16 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:And "usually and almost always" is closer to certainty than it is to a coin flip.
9 out of 10 means most of the time, not literally 9 of 10 or 90 of 100.
You make strong statements to indicate one meaning, then when shown why that statement is problematic, you backtrack and blame it on the interpretation of your statements. Words have meanings; don't use them if you don't mean them.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:23 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:18 games.
You're assuming they stay at the same W-L record for the whole season based on the record after 17 games
And their W/L record is actually higher than their expected value based on their performance (0.388 vs. 0.277). In other words, their performance is actually worse than their on-the-court performance.
quote:It's imperfect, but let's not pretend a quarter of the season is an irrelevant sample; it has its uses.
If you're projection the whole season off of 17 games that isn't the best way to go about doing it. If you don't have a better way then it just shows the uselessness of stats sometimes.
Besides critizing someone using the available data then making STRONG statements and predictions off of essentially NO data is pure hackery.
Are you OK being a hack?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:25 am to buckeye_vol
Always goes back to semantics with you, maybe the issue is the way you're reading my posts. This is informal, trash talking, shooitng the breeze etc not everything has to be taken literally.
When I say 9 of 10, I don't mean literally 9 of 10 yet that's how you read it and will argue it til you're blue in the face.
It's a chore when you pop into threads.
When I say 9 of 10, I don't mean literally 9 of 10 yet that's how you read it and will argue it til you're blue in the face.
It's a chore when you pop into threads.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:31 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Here is a post YOU made a couple of pages back:
When I say 9 of 10, I don't mean literally 9 of 10 yet that's how you read it and will argue it til you're blue in the face.
quote:Here is another one:
10 games v team that you beat 89%
10 games v team that you beat 91%
What are the chances that you beat both teams 9 times if 10 games are played?
quote:You really go out of your way to present very precise hypotheticals (89 and 91) to argue 9 out of 10 WHEN you don't LITERALLY mean 9 out of 10.
HOU plays a team 10 times they beat 89% of the time and one team they beat 91% of the time.
After 10 games explain to me how they don't beat each team 9 of 10 times?
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:34 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:35 am to buckeye_vol
I only was playing with the numbers to show that just Bc a team has a tougher SOS DOESNT mean they will have a worse record.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:45 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
I only was playing with the numbers to show that just Bc a team has a tougher SOS DOESNT mean they will have a worse record
So you state 9 times out of 10 repeatedly, but you don't mean it? Rather you mean it figuratively for "usually or almost always" which are easier to write and more commonly used anyways?
Then you make an argument using precise numbers to show "9 times out of 10" but you didn't mean that either?
You really say a lot of things you don't mean. But even then, there is a reason "9 out of 10" is a figure of speech for "usually and almost always." It's because something that occurs 9 out of 10 times ALMOST ALWAYS occurs. In other words, it essentially means the same thing.
SO the statement that "Houston would beat those teams ALMOST ALWAYS" is still a hack statement and not supported by the data.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:47 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:55 am to buckeye_vol
Good try bro. But nope. Again you're trying to define the words I use by your own definitions. This is a basketball thread and when you jump in the thread is never about basketball it's about your semantics and math BS. 
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:57 am to Boomshockalocka
You see the Lawson / Jack trade rumor?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:16 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:OK fine.
try bro. But nope. Again you're trying to define the words I use by your own definitions. This is a basketball thread and when you jump in the thread is never about basketball it's about your semantics and math BS.
Lakers will beat the Rockets 9 times out of 10.
Don't argue with the semantics, logic, or data that go into that statement. Those aren't about basketball afterall.
*I reserve the right to change my personal definitions if shown incorrect, pursuant to Chapter 1 of Rust is Real: Boomshockalocka's Guide to Making Reasons not Excuses for Being Wrong.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:16 pm to PortCityTiger24
I didn't. Jack is really solid as a backup PG.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:55 pm to Boomshockalocka
Jesus, every time I refresh this thread, you have defied the odds and descended further into lunacy 
Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:16 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Read this, let this soak in since you're such a fan of his work.
So for a 7 game series GSW has a series win probability of 85.2% against SAS
So for a 7 game series GSW has a series win probability of 85.2% against SAS
Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:40 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Hey now! You're not following your own advice.
So for a 7 game series GSW has a series win probability of 85.2% against SAS
quote:
This is a basketball thread and when you jump in the thread is never about basketball it's about your semantics and math BS.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:46 pm to buckeye_vol
I'm poking fun at you and your calculations...Just having a little fun that's it.
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