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re: Roy Williams hasn't been asked a single question about academic scandal during tourney
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:18 pm to floridatigah
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:18 pm to floridatigah
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Like 75% of their basketball players had a fraudulent major
You mean those same majors that were offered to 100% of the rest of the student body at UNC?
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:45 pm to sms151t
The athlete vs non athlete ratio was outrageous. And they threw the football and women's basketball team under the bus so they were obviously doing something wrong.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:52 pm to floridatigah
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The athlete vs non athlete ratio was outrageous.
Actually no it wasnt
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:56 pm to More beer please
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More than 3,100 students, 47.6 percent of them athletes, were enrolled in and received credit for the phantom classes, most of which were created and graded solely by a single employee, Deborah Crowder.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:02 pm to floridatigah
Boom
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:03 pm to sms151t
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They cant touch them about the classes as it was not a violation.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:09 pm to TigerBait1127
Laugh all you want but the NCAA can not tell a university what it HAS to offer. They offered the classes to the whole student body.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:29 pm to sms151t
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Laugh all you want but the NCAA can not tell a university what it HAS to offer. They offered the classes to the whole student body.
According to NCAA rules at the time, if cheating benefited the eligibility of an athlete, and a of the university staff knowingly participated, it is considered academic fraud.
Pretty sure it hit both those requirements
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:32 pm to TigerBait1127
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Pretty sure it hit both those requirements
Pretty sure the men's basketball team was cleared.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:34 pm to Kracka
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Pretty sure the men's basketball team was cleared.
How were they cleared?
No basketball players took the classes? We know that is false, and we know that a university staff knowingly participated.
It hits both requirements
226 basketball players took the classes
Furthermore, they were steered that way by academic advisors of the b-ball team.
The NCAA turning a blind eye = innocence. That's the whole discussion.....
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This is the only part that mentions the mens basketball program. And it's a very very small amount over "18yrs". And all they could find evidence of, was that the academic advisors (not coaches) steered them to take the classes to stay eligible. That shite happens all over the country, and at every damn school with an athletic program. Just like paying players.
-Kracka
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Rashad McCants, the second-leading scorer on the North Carolina basketball team that won the 2004-05 national title, told ESPN's "Outside the Lines" that tutors wrote his term papers, he rarely went to class for about half his time at UNC, and he remained able to play largely because he took bogus classes designed to keep athletes academically eligible.
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cCants told "Outside the Lines" that he could have been academically ineligible to play during the championship season had he not been provided the assistance. Further, he said head basketball coach Roy Williams knew about the "paper class" system at UNC. The so-called paper classes didn't require students to go to class; rather, students were required to submit only one term paper to receive a grade.
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McCants also told "Outside the Lines" that he even made the dean's list in the spring of 2005 despite not attending any of his four classes for which he received straight-A grades. He said advisers and tutors who worked with the basketball program steered him to take the paper classes within the African-American Studies program.
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:46 pm to TigerBait1127
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-Kracka
Hahahaha......Rashaad McCants. Bitter, mad, looking for one last limelight spot. That's old news too. 12 yrs ago. Nothing ever came of that either. All it did was blow the rest of the athletic programs up. Never did it do any harm to what he intended which was the men's basketball team.
Also.....
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The NCAA turning a blind eye = innocence. That's the whole discussion.....
If there is one thing I am pretty sure the NCAA doesn't do is turn a blind eye. Except for child molestation..... If anything, the NCAA makes examples out of people for way smaller shite.
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 3/31/17 at 5:25 pm to Kracka
I was literally quoting your own words on that first part.
We know for a fact that over 200 basketball players took the classes. We know a university staff member participated.
Therefore, we know the rules were broken
How many stories will suffice on the inconsistency of the NCAA when it comes to punishing larger
Will 5 work?
We know for a fact that over 200 basketball players took the classes. We know a university staff member participated.
Therefore, we know the rules were broken
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If there is one thing I am pretty sure the NCAA doesn't do is turn a blind eye. Except for child molestation..... If anything, the NCAA makes examples out of people for way smaller shite.
How many stories will suffice on the inconsistency of the NCAA when it comes to punishing larger
Will 5 work?
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 3/31/17 at 6:02 pm to Kracka
One renegade program that offered an easy class open to all students - not just athletes. What a scandal I'm sure this never happens at other schools NCAA looking into matters outside their jurisdiction
Posted on 3/31/17 at 6:13 pm to sms151t
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They have already penalized them for the tutors once
uh no, they punished the female basketball team, fb and mbb got nothing.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 6:31 pm to SeeeeK
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uh no, they punished the female basketball team, fb got nothing.
Uh, no
Carolina Gets Postseason Ban, Loss of 15 Football Scholarships
Posted on 3/31/17 at 6:38 pm to Warheel
Errrrrbody mad because Roy is still winning the old fashioned way. LSU fans are still butthurt over the whole Lester Earl situation.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 6:47 pm to HoLeInOnEr05
Please tell me that Carolina fans don't actually think thar Roy isn't a hypocritical douchebag. He's a great coach and you can pull for your boys but you can't tell me that right? The sad part is growing up you knew Carolina did it the right way under Smith, I pulled for IU growing up (never cared for Dale) but you had to respect their program. Everytime I hear Roy talk it makes me cringe a little because he is so full of shite. I always respected UK fans cause they own their transgressions like men, UNC fans can learn a lesson from them.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 6:49 pm to Kracka
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Pretty sure the men's basketball team was cleared.
Unless I'm incorrect, they initially were dropped and then were re-added with the last NOA that was sent to UNC.
It is quite amazing how slow this investigation is moving compared to schools like Ole Miss and Louisville.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 6:58 pm to sms151t
They need to give them the death penalty and kill roy williams
Posted on 3/31/17 at 7:10 pm to heartbreakTiger
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