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re: Rockets want to trade Asik by Dec 19th
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:41 pm to boXerrumble
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:41 pm to boXerrumble
Asik torpedoed his trade value with that early season temper tantrum
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:42 pm to PurpGold 14-0
Yeah, his trade value is probably pretty low.
I mean, they'll still get something decent, its not just going to be expirings or something. But its not going to be as good as the Rocketards expect.
Certainly not Ryan Anderson or a player of his caliber.
I mean, they'll still get something decent, its not just going to be expirings or something. But its not going to be as good as the Rocketards expect.
Certainly not Ryan Anderson or a player of his caliber.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:46 pm to Fun Bunch
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With @ESPNSteinLine reporting Rox ramped up Omer Asik talks, a quick note: last I was told by rival team, Houston still seeking lottery pick
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@sam_amick: If Houston can't find lottery pick for Asik, rival teams under impression they're also on the lookout for high-level power forward.
— Sam Amick (@sam_amick) December 6, 2013
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:47 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Houston still seeking lottery pick
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high-level power forward.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:48 pm to Fun Bunch
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they aren't going to get much for Asik
Certainly not Ryan Anderson or a player of his caliber.
Yeah, I doubt Morey only gets someone of Ryan Anderson's caliber when it's all said and done. Nobody wants a PF that can't play D or rebound. Nothing is going to get done for another week anyway.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:51 pm to ZTiger87
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Calling it now. Asik to the Pels. Gordon, Parsons and Lin to the Knicks. Melo to the Rockets. Rockets stacked, League fked.
Parsons > Harden. So no.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:53 pm to Boomshockalocka
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@sam_amick: If Houston can't find lottery pick for Asik, rival teams under impression they're also on the lookout for high-level power forward.
I think the closest they may get to this is the former Mr. Kardashian, Kris Humphries, who is just paid like a high-level 4.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:53 pm to ZTiger87
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Yeah, I doubt Morey only gets someone of Ryan Anderson's caliber when it's all said and done.
You guys are cute.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:54 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Parsons > Harden
lol no.
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You guys are cute
What do you honestly think Ryan Anderson's trade value is?
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:58 pm to ZTiger87
To the Pels? Way more than Asik.
You can't just think in cold player value. The Pels value Ryan Anderson A LOT. He is the heart of the team and totally changes how they play basketball. They are WAY better with him than without him. His spacing, leadership, etc are worth a tremendous amount to them. He's just too valuable to the team.
AND he's on a great contract for cheaper and longer than Asik. He's playing out of his mind offensively right now.
Asik's value is dogshit right now relative to what it was last year. He's a very good defensive center but the Rockets NEED to trade him and everyone knows it.
At this point, you can't get Anderson for him. No shot.
You might be able to get Milsap or something though? I don't know.
You can't just think in cold player value. The Pels value Ryan Anderson A LOT. He is the heart of the team and totally changes how they play basketball. They are WAY better with him than without him. His spacing, leadership, etc are worth a tremendous amount to them. He's just too valuable to the team.
AND he's on a great contract for cheaper and longer than Asik. He's playing out of his mind offensively right now.
Asik's value is dogshit right now relative to what it was last year. He's a very good defensive center but the Rockets NEED to trade him and everyone knows it.
At this point, you can't get Anderson for him. No shot.
You might be able to get Milsap or something though? I don't know.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:59 pm to boXerrumble
If they can get the money to work, a Asik for Hickson deal would make sense for both sides.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:59 pm to ZTiger87
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What do you honestly think Ryan Anderson's trade value is?
With his skill set and contract, a whole hell of a lot more than Asik.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:07 pm to Fun Bunch
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You can't just think in cold player value. The Pels value Ryan Anderson A LOT. He is the heart of the team and totally changes how they play basketball. They are WAY better with him than without him. His spacing, leadership, etc are worth a tremendous amount to them. He's just too valuable to the team.
What nonsense Of course the Pels are better with him than with Amundsun or Stiemsa.
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You might be able to get Milsap or something though?
Oh, we might be able to get a better player than Ryan Anderson? I'm glad you agree.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:14 pm to ZTiger87
Asik for Brandon Bass and Marshon Brooks works
Asik for Glen Davis works
Asik for Kris Humprhies works (and he is expiring)
Asik wants to start so that makes it a bit tougher to find him a home.
There is a ton of poo-poo platters out there like Richard Jefferson or Hedo that are expiring if the Rockets want to ramp up their tax payments for this year
Asik for Glen Davis works
Asik for Kris Humprhies works (and he is expiring)
Asik wants to start so that makes it a bit tougher to find him a home.
There is a ton of poo-poo platters out there like Richard Jefferson or Hedo that are expiring if the Rockets want to ramp up their tax payments for this year
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:14 pm to ZTiger87
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What nonsense Of course the Pels are better with him than with Amundsun or Stiemsa.
I'm saying he's too valuable to THAT particular team. More valuable than Asik would be. And Anderson is better than Asik. And he's better than Millsap at this point, especially considering that Millsap gets paid more than him. So no, Millsap isn't a better player, but as always, you guys are adorable.
I can tell you exactly whats going to happen:
Morey is going to make a deal that leaves Houston fans saying WTF.
He will then make another move right before the deadline that will make it seem like it makes a lot more sense.
The whole point of doing it before Dec 19th is to be able to make another move at the deadline.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:19 pm to PrimeTime Money
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In Morey I trust.
As well you should. He's done some decent things.
I really think the Asik deal is going to be one that leaves Houston fans scratching their head. That's what December 19th as a deadline signifies. All about the next move.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:19 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:They play different positions and play completely different games.
And Anderson is better than Asik.
There is no way to say who is "better". It matters who fits better on a particular team depending on the players that team already has.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:20 pm to Fun Bunch
Anderson is better than Milsap? Really, seriously really. Plus Milsap is only have two years on his deal for 8 mil. That is a bargin versus Anderson.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:22 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I'm pretty sure most were expecting that... especially after it came out that he was asking for draft picks.
All about the next move.
Houston is in win-now mode, so picks are going to be packaged in a trade and flipped to another team.
After Morey built this team from scratch through flipping picks and players, I have no doubt he's going to do something similar and make a few moves before he reaches his goal.
I entertain the Asik for Anderson trade talk here just for discussion, but I don't believe any trade will be a straight-up swap.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 1:25 pm
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