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Remember when OKC was going to be the next dominant NBA franchise?
Posted on 1/26/16 at 1:09 am
Posted on 1/26/16 at 1:09 am
it was around 2011 when they had made their run to the WCF led by a 23 year old durant, a 23 year old westbrook, an emerging 22 year old harden, and an emerging 22 year old ibaka that people started to wonder if this would be the team of the 2010s and once they made the NBA finals the next year, it seemed pretty likely that it would happen. now after injuries and trades, it seems like we could be getting close to seeing their ability to be an unquestioned top tier team come to a close depending on what happens with durant after only one trip to the finals
i get that GS already has a title, but does anyone think 5 years from now we will look back on GS and go, for whatever reason, "they did not win as much as we all thought"
i get that GS already has a title, but does anyone think 5 years from now we will look back on GS and go, for whatever reason, "they did not win as much as we all thought"
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 1:13 am to WestCoastAg
OKC's predicted dominance was largely based on potential that never materialized. Golden State's is based on established dominance.
I'll say they win at least two of the next five titles, probably more. The only thing that might change this is if Durant and Lebron team up.
I'll say they win at least two of the next five titles, probably more. The only thing that might change this is if Durant and Lebron team up.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 1:18 am to Roger Klarvin
I mean, losing Russ for the 2012 playoffs and KD for almost all of last year probably had something to do with that.
That 2012 Thunder team is the one that kills me. 1st seed in West, were more efficient with K-Mart off the bench than the Finals team from the year before. fricking sucks.
That 2012 Thunder team is the one that kills me. 1st seed in West, were more efficient with K-Mart off the bench than the Finals team from the year before. fricking sucks.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 1:32 am to WestCoastAg
If the salary cap hike came at the same time as the OKC reign began, the whole situation would be a lot different. Harden would have been kept and they would have likely won a few championships.
The reason why GS is winning and will continue to win is two reasons. Their core is young and healthy and their core is cheap looking at future years where the cap continues to go up.
Curry: 12mil -> locked through '16-'17
Bogut: 11mil -> locked through '16-'17
AI: 11mil -> locked through '16-'17
Thompson: 16.6, 17.8, 19.0 -> locked through '18-'19
Green: 15.3, 16.4, 17.5, 18.5 -> locked through '19-'20
Barnes: Free agency after this year IIRC
Current salary is ~70mil, ~89 in 2016, ~108 in 2017,
Two of the core 3 will be underpaid vastly when Curry gets his contract in the 100mil salary cap era. Then you have to add players who will want to take less to win, players who will re-sign and fit this system (bogut, AI, speights, etc)
You're looking at least 2 more years of this type of play. They're going to dominate for a while.
The reason why GS is winning and will continue to win is two reasons. Their core is young and healthy and their core is cheap looking at future years where the cap continues to go up.
Curry: 12mil -> locked through '16-'17
Bogut: 11mil -> locked through '16-'17
AI: 11mil -> locked through '16-'17
Thompson: 16.6, 17.8, 19.0 -> locked through '18-'19
Green: 15.3, 16.4, 17.5, 18.5 -> locked through '19-'20
Barnes: Free agency after this year IIRC
Current salary is ~70mil, ~89 in 2016, ~108 in 2017,
Two of the core 3 will be underpaid vastly when Curry gets his contract in the 100mil salary cap era. Then you have to add players who will want to take less to win, players who will re-sign and fit this system (bogut, AI, speights, etc)
You're looking at least 2 more years of this type of play. They're going to dominate for a while.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 1:46 am to Roger Klarvin
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I'll say they win at least two of the next five titles, probably more. The only thing that might change this is if Durant and Lebron team up
Give this man his own show.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:02 am to okietiger
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I mean, losing Russ for the 2012 playoffs and KD for almost all of last year probably had something to do with that.
The atrocious Harden trade didn't help.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:23 am to RTR America
OKC isn't out of the picture this yeat
I'm not a Durant guy, but watch out of they get one.
*also man if Memphis would have taken Harden over Tabeet
I'm not a Durant guy, but watch out of they get one.
*also man if Memphis would have taken Harden over Tabeet
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 4:25 am
Posted on 1/26/16 at 7:33 am to Roger Klarvin
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OKC's predicted dominance was largely based on potential that never materialized. Golden State's is based on established dominance.
Ya don't say.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 7:40 am to WestCoastAg
The 2012 season had that "changing of the guard" feel to it, seeming to herald OKC as the new West overlords. SA was supposed to decline. GSW wasn't on anyone's radar.
Crazy how quickly and unexpectedly the sports landscape can shift.
Crazy how quickly and unexpectedly the sports landscape can shift.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 7:53 am to WestCoastAg
Uh.. Difference is OKC was going to be the next dominant team because they had potential and made 3 conference finals in 4 years, GS is the next dominant team because they took the NBA by storm last season, won the NBA Championship and have been obliterating teams this season with the possibility of breaking the record for the most wins a season. GS isn't going to be the next dominant team - they already are.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:18 am to RonBurgundy
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*also man if Memphis would have taken Harden over Tabeet
There was a certain PG that went 7th in that draft too
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:31 am to WestCoastAg
Clay Bennett has forever cursed that franchise.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:08 am to TbirdSpur2010
The further along the Harden trade goes, the worse it looks. It was terrible at the time, but right now it looks like one of the worst 5 trades in NBA history.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:13 am to WestCoastAg
People forget how awful Harden was in the 2012 Finals. He disappeared shooting under 40%
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:29 am to AjaxFury
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People forget how awful Harden was in the 2012 Finals. He disappeared shooting under 40%
He also carried them in the West finals.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:58 pm to WestCoastAg
They lost Russ in the playoffs one year. Then Ibaka the next right before the WCF and basically spotted SA two games. Then Durant last year. Injuries have really fricked them over.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 3:24 pm to WestCoastAg
They fricked up when they let harden go. No question about it.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 3:50 pm to BayouFann
I think a lack of a scheme/identity has hurt the thunder as much as anything.
Brooks rolled the ball out....
Mark Jackson rolled the ball out and Steve Kerr replaced and instilled a system that moves the ball.
OKC is moving the ball better than ever and if they stay healthy, then they are a contender.
Brooks rolled the ball out....
Mark Jackson rolled the ball out and Steve Kerr replaced and instilled a system that moves the ball.
OKC is moving the ball better than ever and if they stay healthy, then they are a contender.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:00 pm to RonBurgundy
I am certain that the combined usage rating for KD/Russ is higher this year than in any prior year and one thing is for sure. Both of their numbers are the equivalent of one guy carrying a team by himself. Like I said earlier. Injuries. The last time they lost a series with Russ/KD/Serge healthy was the finals vs the Heat.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:37 pm to RonBurgundy
I don't think its crazy talk to say that OKC has a decent shot at upsetting GS
I'm very curious what they do at the deadline
I'm very curious what they do at the deadline
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