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Randy Johnson from 1998-2003 was ALL-TIME greatness

Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:48 am
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:48 am


And this was during the height of the steroid era. His 1998 season was on its way to being legendary.



This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 8:01 am
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:50 am to
A great photographer too
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:52 am to
I never really realized as a kid back then that he was old as shite and putting up those numbers. Guy dominated in his late 30s.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:54 am to
Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez were my pitching heros at that time. Absolute beasts on the mound.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:55 am to
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I never really realized as a kid back then that he was old as shite and putting up those numbers. Guy dominated in his late 30s.

I mean pitchers were juicing back then as well.

Which in some ways only leveled the playing field.

But HGH was being used by everyone at that level.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 11:59 am
Posted by saturday
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:55 am to
What were his stats in Seattle in 98 before getting traded?
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:59 am to
really good toward the end of his stint. He had shown greatness. His turnaround started toward the end of his time in SEA when he called Nolan Ryan and asked for advice.

Nolan Ryan said "try and stay ahead and the count and focus on not walking people"

And Randy Johnson changed his focus on the mound and this happened. Which I find funny considering Nolan Ryan is the all-time leaders in walks by far.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:59 am to
The number of innings is what really stands out to me. Guy was averaging 250 innings a year throwing 100 MPH fastballs and never had any major arm or shoulder injuries. Nowadays, you have pitchers being babied like crazy and pitching well under 200 innings a year and still having to undergo Tommy John at an enormously high rate.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 8:01 am to
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Nowadays, you have pitchers being babied like crazy and pitching well under 200 innings a year and still having to undergo Tommy John at an enormously high rate.


Blame high school coaches - they try and force pitchers into throwing curve-balls too early while their arms are still developing.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:33 am to
Pedro give or take a couple years each way was all time as well.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:57 am to
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Nowadays, you have pitchers being babied like crazy and pitching well under 200 innings a year and still having to undergo Tommy John at an enormously high rate.


I think guys are throwing with more spin than they used to and that’s what’s causing injuries

And everyone in MLB can murder a fastball unlike when guys like Rafael Belliard still held spots
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:15 am to
A few yrs back I was talking to David Dellucci, a teammate of RJ, and when I asked him who was the toughest pitcher he ever faced or saw, he answered, immediately, "Randy Johnson was hands down the scariest pitcher I ever saw. With his height, his release point seemed to be only a few feet away. And he was the ugliest person I ever faced, too ".
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Nolan Ryan said "try and stay ahead and the count and focus on not walking people" And Randy Johnson changed his focus on the mound and this happened. Which I find funny considering Nolan Ryan is the all-time leaders in walks by far.


what was his approach before?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:27 am to
There was a short time where a young Adam Banks HATED ken griffey jr and Randy Johnson because of the movie little big league



Thought they were pure evil
Posted by Splackavellie
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:34 am to
Have a friend who got some at bats against him as a left hitter. He said the ball was being released from behind him.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:26 am to
Pedro's run from 98-03 is more impressive.

LINK

he had an ERA above 2.40 once during that run. Just insane
Posted by Mstate
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:31 am to
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Pedro's run from 98-03 is more impressive. LINK he had an ERA above 2.40 once during that run. Just insane


Yea Pedro’s run is legendary. Randy too

I can’t remember which season it was for Pedro, may have been 99 or 2000 but I think at his peak Pedro is the best pitcher of all time
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:43 am to
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I can’t remember which season it was for Pedro, may have been 99 or 2000 but I think at his peak Pedro is the best pitcher of all time


Pedro might be the right answer for peak best, but I would at least want to argue Greg Maddux.
Posted by LSU
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8830 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:48 am to
I saw Randy Johnson pitch in person twice & they were two of the worst outings of his entire career.

7/29/06 - 3.1 IP, 9 Runs (6 Earned), 0 K's, 3 BB's

6/28/07 - 3 IP, 4 Runs (3 Earned), 2 K's, 2 BB's

On the other end of that spectrum though, a good friend of mine happened to attend his perfect game in 2004.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:51 am to
My favorite Randy Johnson moment was in the '97 all star game when he buzzed Larry Walker, and Larry turned his batting helmet around and got in the right-handed hitter batter's box.
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