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Pitcher being DH for himself
Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:02 pm
If he starts the game on the mound, and is replaced but remains DH, can he return to the mound later in the game, or does he have to play defense in the field to be able to return as pitcher?
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:05 pm to vjp819
A pitcher cannot DH if he is on the mound.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:07 pm to vjp819
I don't think a pitcher can DH for himself. He would just hit for himself and there would be no DH.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:10 pm to vjp819
If there is no DH to start the game, then you can't insert one in the middle of the game. Abd no one who starts in the field can become the DH later in the game.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:21 pm to vjp819
Assuming you're talking about UofL's McKay, when they turn in the card at the beginning of the game he's listed as P/DH. He becomes the DH when he leaves the mound. I believe at that point he can't return to the mound because he didn't switch to another defensive position. I could be wrong though.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:21 pm to McCaigBro69
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A pitcher cannot DH if he is on the mound.
Never watched college baseball ?
Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:29 pm to vjp819
In college baseball
-NCAA rules state that the designated hitter must hit for the pitcher
-If a player who starts a game as a P/DH is relieved as the starting pitcher, he may not return to the mound even if he remains in the game as the DH, and he may not play any other defensive position after being relieved as the pitcher.
-If a player who starts a game as a P/DH is relieved as the starting pitcher, a moves to a secondary position on the field, the DH is lost, but the player can return to the mound.
-NCAA rules state that the designated hitter must hit for the pitcher
-If a player who starts a game as a P/DH is relieved as the starting pitcher, he may not return to the mound even if he remains in the game as the DH, and he may not play any other defensive position after being relieved as the pitcher.
-If a player who starts a game as a P/DH is relieved as the starting pitcher, a moves to a secondary position on the field, the DH is lost, but the player can return to the mound.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:29 pm to D011ahbi11
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Never watched college baseball ?
Does MLB have different rules in terms of DH? I know for a fact that a player in the field cannot be listed as the DH in the lineup.
A pitcher can pinch hit for the DH later in the game, but either the pitcher hits and there is no DH, or there is a DH and pitcher does not hit.
I follow college baseball, but would not be shocked if there is a different rule for the college level.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 4:43 pm to D011ahbi11
He's simply assuming the Pitcher hits for himself thus technically wouldn't he hitting as the DH. He just hits as the pitcher
Posted on 6/18/17 at 5:00 pm to McCaigBro69
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Does MLB have different rules in terms of DH?
Yes, in high school and college, DH rules have been adjusted since pitchers are better hitters.
In MLB, once the game pitcher bats, the DH is eliminated for the game.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 5:36 pm to McCaigBro69
A pitcher can DH.
He cannot return to mound
He cannot return to mound
Posted on 6/18/17 at 5:39 pm to BluegrassBelle
Yes I thought about it when McKay came to bat today, but someone that LSU played this season had a pitcher batting. He did leave the game but remained DH. I might be mistaken but I thought he was listed as DH when the lineup was posted.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 5:41 pm to Hot Carl
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I don't think a pitcher can DH for himself. He would just hit for himself and there would be no DH.
Pretty sure, even in the MLB, that, at least in theory, the pitcher could hit for himself (like Bumgarner in an AL park) and they could DH for a fielder.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 5:46 pm to Lester Earl
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He's simply assuming the Pitcher hits for himself thus technically wouldn't he hitting as the DH. He just hits as the pitcher
Not the case in college baseball. It's why guys like Bogusevic, Owings and now McKay would still be abled to bat in the DH spot after they are taken out as the pitcher.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 7:01 pm to D011ahbi11
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quote: He's simply assuming the Pitcher hits for himself thus technically wouldn't he hitting as the DH. He just hits as the pitcher
Not the case in college baseball. It's why guys like Bogusevic, Owings and now McKay would still be abled to bat in the DH spot after they are taken out as the pitcher.
Read it again. If the pitcher is batting, he is technically not the DH, he is the pitcher (a position player). An active pitcher cannot DH, but a starting pitcher after being pulled can.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 7:19 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Read it again. If the pitcher is batting, he is technically not the DH, he is the pitcher (a position player). An active pitcher cannot DH, but a starting pitcher after being pulled can
Not really. In college baseball there has to a DH.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:06 pm to D011ahbi11
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Not really. In college baseball there has to a DH.
No
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:08 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
I thought the Pitcher is listed different than DH in lineup. So once you take the guy as a Pitcher in that situation he can only be DH.
Example: they list him as DH in spot 3 and Pitcher in spot 10 on the card.
Example: they list him as DH in spot 3 and Pitcher in spot 10 on the card.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:37 pm to vjp819
This is the NCAA rule for a pitcher being a dh:
Nine-player lineup—DH is the pitcher
1) If the P/DH is replaced defensively as the pitcher:
a) When replaced as the pitcher, the P/DH may:
(1)Remain as the DH and bat only in the DH spot. If remaining as the DH, the individual or subsequent DH, cannot enter the game in any other capacity (eg, as the pitcher, defensive player or pinch runner)
2) If the P/DH is moved to a defensive position:
a) The P/DH may be moved to a defensive position; the DH is terminated for the remainder of the game
b) The P/DH, being placed at a defensive position, must bat in the original DH spot
c) The new pitcher must bat in the spot of the replaced defensive player
d) If the P/DH goes to a defensive position, the individual may return as a pitcher once since the P/DH was originally considered as two different players. If the P/DH was removed as a pitcher on a second trip of an inning or after the third free trip, the player cannot return to pitch
e) At the time the coach makes the pitching change, he shall indicate to the plate umpire the playing status of the removed pitcher
Nine-player lineup—DH is the pitcher
1) If the P/DH is replaced defensively as the pitcher:
a) When replaced as the pitcher, the P/DH may:
(1)Remain as the DH and bat only in the DH spot. If remaining as the DH, the individual or subsequent DH, cannot enter the game in any other capacity (eg, as the pitcher, defensive player or pinch runner)
2) If the P/DH is moved to a defensive position:
a) The P/DH may be moved to a defensive position; the DH is terminated for the remainder of the game
b) The P/DH, being placed at a defensive position, must bat in the original DH spot
c) The new pitcher must bat in the spot of the replaced defensive player
d) If the P/DH goes to a defensive position, the individual may return as a pitcher once since the P/DH was originally considered as two different players. If the P/DH was removed as a pitcher on a second trip of an inning or after the third free trip, the player cannot return to pitch
e) At the time the coach makes the pitching change, he shall indicate to the plate umpire the playing status of the removed pitcher
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 6/18/17 at 9:45 pm to sms151t
Pretty sure you are correct.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 9:49 pm
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