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re: Phil Jackson on Kobe and MJ
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:02 am to PhiTiger1764
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:02 am to PhiTiger1764
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Please post the career totals numbers for each player instead of their averages
:lol: Ok, because that makes sense. I guess Favre is the Goat bruh quote:Notice how my analysis was individual, you know shite that one player actually controls? Not like being the second best player on the team for 3 finals wins.......
Also, include Titles won in your analysis
ETA: If you honestly think Kobe is better than or has been better then Lebron, there is no argument I can make to you because you are irrational
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 9:04 am
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:03 am to lsupride87
Kevin Durant has higher career PPG, RPG, APG, and FG% numbers than Kobe. He also has the same amount of MVPs. Has 25 year old ringless KD already passed Kobe by a good bit too? 
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:04 am to PhiTiger1764
quote:Not yet, but it is pretty clear he is better. And in 4-5 years I will say yes
Has 25 year old ringless KD already passed Kobe by a good bit too?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:10 am to lsupride87
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Not yet, but it is pretty clear he is better. And in 4-5 years I will say yes
I don't understand how you can say KD hasn't passed him yet but LeBron has... given what you value.
I think both have the potential to pass Kobe. Obviously LeBron likely will. They are both on pace to.. but it hasn't happened yet.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:12 am to PhiTiger1764
quote:I like to see it sustained for a while. Lebron has sustained it for long enough for me to say he is better than Kobe. Kd has not yet
I don't understand how you can say KD hasn't passed him yet but LeBron has... given what you value.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:22 am to PhiTiger1764
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I think both have the potential to pass Kobe. Obviously LeBron likely will. They are both on pace to.. but it hasn't happened yet.
Lebron's already surpassed Kobe as a player. Kobe has a clear but not significant advantage in scoring ability. Lebron is clearly superior in every other aspect of the game.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:24 am to genro
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Nobody has what MJ had.
Kobe just comes closest
Agreed. Kobe is similar to Jordan in more ways than anyone we have ever seen.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:28 am to 632627
quote:Except for the basketball part
Agreed. Kobe is similar to Jordan in more ways than anyone we have ever seen
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:36 am to Goldrush25
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Lebron is clearly superior in every other aspect of the game.
Except winning.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:46 am to WG_Tiger23
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Lebron and KD are two premier players that never have shown the true drive that MJ and Kobe are notorious for.
MJ and Kobe aren't notorious for their drive. They're notorious for being assholes which somehow means they care more. MJ is the GOAT and Kobe is in the top 10 all-time, but it's unfair to say they are more driven than anyone else.
For example, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett both have that same drive IMO. They just go about their business a different way.
ETA: Talking specifically about how they deal with teammates.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:49 am to PKTiger
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MJ and Kobe aren't notorious for their drive
Rich of you to call Kobe and MJ assholes and then act like Garnett is a friendly fella. Come on now.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:53 am to PKTiger
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For example, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett both have that same drive IMO. They just go about their business a different way.
Dude has said some pretty ruthless shite on the court. Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:56 am to WB504
quote:Key word. Garnett is soft as cotton though
Dude has said some pretty ruthless shite on the court.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:56 am to WB504
KG is crazy but, by all accounts, he is a great teammate.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:00 am to shel311
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I think I got em pegged just right, personally. :)
Not at all. In my opinion, it is your worst opinion.
You have Kobe below Wade, which is actually hard to comprehend. You rank Kobe lower than anyone else I have ever heard their opinion of. The fact you rate Kobe so much lower than literally everyone else, including vaunted basketball experts makes me think that maybe you should reconsider some of your analysis on the subject.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:02 am to PKTiger
Anyone to be top 20 in their respective field obviously has drive.
Doesn't mean that MJ and Kobe can't have higher drives than everyone else.
Doesn't mean that MJ and Kobe can't have higher drives than everyone else.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:54 am to oleyeller
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kobe isnt even in the top players in nba now much less all time
Kobe's the second greatest shooting guard in NBA history
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:56 am to WG_Tiger23
When it comes to basketball Lebron passed Kobe up, but that still doesn't take away the fact Kobe has way more drive that Lebron. If Lebron would get the Kobe and MJ drive he would've been unstoppable.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:59 am to Lion8
he is unstoppable now
Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:02 am to oleyeller
Obviously not since Dallas and the Spurs beat him.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 11:03 am
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