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Why even have fricking discussions if you are always going to bring that up?

We may as well may be discussing the existence of god if you are just to say "how can you prove that" every time and dismiss everything not presented in a statistical context.

I have no idea what this means in relation to what you quoted, to be honest.

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Personally, I think the opinion of the guy who scouted Kobe and had to have him out of high school probably knows an infinite more about Kobe and his game than either of could imagine.

I'm sure every scout knows more about hoops than you and I.

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Posted by shel311

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Posted on 7/23/14 at 7:13 pm to imraged

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I personally value prime/peak over longevity.

You and I are in the minority on that one.

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Posted by PortCityTiger24

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Posted on 7/23/14 at 7:24 pm to shel311

I'm with you.

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Posted by shel311

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Posted on 7/23/14 at 7:42 pm to PortCityTiger24

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I'm with you.

I think we now have enough to form a Wolfpack.

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Posted by htran90

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Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:20 pm to shel311

Kobe has been a great player majority of his career (~13 years, first few years he didn't put up 'kobe-esque' numbers and last year was bad.). Other than his shooting #s going up and fg% going down, his R/A were always consistent. His PER numbers were hovering around 23-24 for majority of his career and once in a while will spike up to 26, 28 and that is about it.

LeBron's and Jordan's numbers started off 'above average' and just vaulted into a different class of their own for a good 7 years and dropped down to 'above average'.

In a 7 year span, Jordan averaged .518/.311/.846; 33.2/6.4/6.0 (30.4 PER, 121ortg, 103drtg)

In a 7 year span, LeBron averaged .519/.349/.755; 28.0/7.6/7.1 (30.1 PER, 120ortg, 101drtg)

In a 7 year span, Kobe averaged .453/.339/.845; 29.1/5.8/5.3 (25.1 PER, 113ortg, 105drtg)

Coincidentally, their best years thus far have been from around 22-29 years of age before they started going down (in the case of Jordan and Kobe). Is that going to happen to LeBron? We'll see.

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