re: Patriots have to make a decision between Tom Brady and Jimmy G after 2017

Brady is only making $1 million cash in 2017 with a $14 mil cap hit. His contract is middle of the market at best, how much less do you think he will take?

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Brady is not in his prime anymore dude. Not sure why you're arguing that.

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This has to be a troll.

Exactly Brady's still awesome, but his arm strength is pretty weak now. This isn't 07 Brady.

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Manning was in his prime in 2013 right?

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Different circumstances but that was certainly one of his best years of football.

Brady has increased his QBR each of the last 4 years. When was he playing better? 2007? A player's prime can be more than one season.

A player's prime football ability is not the same as athletic prime.

ETA: Glad you brought up manning. Colts decided to go a different direction because they thought he was past his prime. Manning goes on to play 3 more years of prime football and eventually win a super bowl. But at least the colts had Andrew luck and a career threatening neck injury to base that decision on. Pats have none of that.

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Brady is only making $1 million cash in 2017 with a $14 mil cap hit. His contract is middle of the market at best, how much less do you think he will take?

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It is my understanding that the super cap friendly component of the contract ends after the 2017 season. Hence, the upcoming decision and the purpose of this thread.

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Father Time creeps up on people. BOOM.

Some DE is going to catch Brady and body slam him OOF! and his shoulder will never be the same. On that day, Jimmy G will trot out onto the field and the Patriots will be glad they still have Jimmy G. Jacoby Brisset will be backup in 2018.

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So if he gets injured? Then, well, yeah. But health being constant why would you expect Brady to take a significant enough step back this year to get rid of him? The dude just threw for 450 in the Superbowl last year.

I'm not saying Brady isn't on the decline, but this article is stupid. The author wants to have a hot take and get out in front of this so he can say he was right of it does happen, but he threw out about a million caviates so he wouldn't have to take the heat when in all likelihood he'll be wrong.

Garoppolo will get traded bc he isn't going to sit on the bench for 3 more years.

notice they're beginning to keep/clear cap space?

still have 19.9mil this year
31.6mil next year

they're going to have re-sign certain players and let some go next year of course (edelman, ninkovich, etc) -- but they can still tag him and fit a TON of players.

they don't have a problem until 2018.

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Some DE is going to catch Brady and body slam him OOF! and his shoulder will never be the same.

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It's something like this.

It's not that a player's strength or quickness changes dramatically in one year. It's that that fraction of loss of quickness or agility in the NFL now means that the DE gets there instead of missing you. He sacks you more often now, you accumulate injuries, and that's how players get brought down. The small decrease in quickness or speed now puts them squarely within reach of those that are trying to stop him.

It's a game of milliseconds. If you're on the wrong side of that you get broken down.

It cripples the team with a non-productive $22 million for 2018 and hands all of the leverage to Jimmy. I might entertain it if we hadn't just seen Kirk Cousins take the Redskins to the woodshed trying this kind of foolishness.

This is all assuming that kicking the can down the road another year helps you out of the situation. What if Brady still wants to play (it would seem unlikely, but he's still playing now).