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re: Odell Beckham, Jr. is the best receiver in the NFL
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:20 am to chrisharrisbaby
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:20 am to chrisharrisbaby
quote:Led the league in receiving last year, in 14 games.
Josh Gordon hasn't done anything spectacular.
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:27 am to BayouBengals03
OBJ is a stud. There is no question about that. And his numbers the last couple of months are about as good as anyone's. But I tend to agree with Vick's that they don't tell the whole story.
The way I think about it is this: You get to pick a 100% fully healthy WR to play on your team for one game, who do you want? To me, the answer is still
1) Calvin
2) Julio, Green, Dez, Demaryius, Gordon
These guys can do it all. And what sets them apart is their height and ability to go up and get a jump ball. I would put OBJ in the next tier of WRs with Brown, Nelson, Sanders, etc. And that is hardly an insult to him.
The way I think about it is this: You get to pick a 100% fully healthy WR to play on your team for one game, who do you want? To me, the answer is still
1) Calvin
2) Julio, Green, Dez, Demaryius, Gordon
These guys can do it all. And what sets them apart is their height and ability to go up and get a jump ball. I would put OBJ in the next tier of WRs with Brown, Nelson, Sanders, etc. And that is hardly an insult to him.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:36 am to PhiTiger1764
quote:
OBJ is a stud. There is no question about that. And his numbers the last couple of months are about as good as anyone's. But I tend to agree with Vick's that they don't tell the whole story. The way I think about it is this: You get to pick a 100% fully healthy WR to play on your team for one game, who do you want? To me, the answer is still 1) Calvin 2) Julio, Green, Dez, Demaryius, Gordon These guys can do it all. And what sets them apart is their height and ability to go up and get a jump ball. I would put OBJ in the next tier of WRs with Brown, Nelson, Sanders, etc. And that is hardly an insult to him.
I agree with all of this, but would switch Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:39 am to PhiTiger1764
quote:
2) Julio, Green, Dez, Demaryius, Gordon
quote:
I would put OBJ in the next tier of WRs with Brown, Nelson, Sanders, etc. And that is hardly an insult to him.
Im not even going to touch this one.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:45 am to PhiTiger1764
quote:
And what sets them apart is their height and ability to go up and get a jump ball.
I'll give you the height, but Beckham has shown the ability to go up and get jump balls
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:41 am to drewb808
I have watched Beckham and he is great. I think only the blue bloods of the wide receiver position are ahead of him. You clearly do not understand how perfect this situation is for him.
He has no competition for balls. Only Antonio Brown has that type of scenario, except for the fact that Bell takes a ton of touches on the ground and in the air.
His ability to create separation sure makes him look like an elite wide receiver, but we would not be fapping to him on a weekly basis if he swapped places with Watkins or Evans. The situation makes a HUGE difference on a WR.
He has no competition for balls. Only Antonio Brown has that type of scenario, except for the fact that Bell takes a ton of touches on the ground and in the air.
His ability to create separation sure makes him look like an elite wide receiver, but we would not be fapping to him on a weekly basis if he swapped places with Watkins or Evans. The situation makes a HUGE difference on a WR.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:45 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:
He has no competition for balls.
He will next year
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:49 am to chrisharrisbaby
quote:
Josh Gordon hasn't done anything spectacular
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:49 am to Byron Bojangles III
Not sure Cruz will be close to the same. That was a really bad injury.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:55 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Odell is great and has a great future, but he is not a top 5 WR.
I'll give you top 10.
To even suggest he is better than Calvin Johnson however, its both laughable and absurd. Megatron is an absolute freak of nature.
I'll give you top 10.
To even suggest he is better than Calvin Johnson however, its both laughable and absurd. Megatron is an absolute freak of nature.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:13 am to BayouBengals03
quote:
Odell Beckham, Jr. is the best receiver in the NFL
People will dismiss this.
But, it's not that far off. He's a stud. And, he's elite. He gets more separation than just about any other WR. He's shown how great his hands are. And, he's very fast.
He may not be the best, but he's in the neighborhood.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:19 am to moneyg
Fringe Top 5, easily Top 10. That's my take; however, he continues this consistently, he will be considered top 5. Just not a big enough sample size yet.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:21 am to BayouBengals03
quote:
Odell Beckham, Jr. is the best receiver in the NFL
This thread is a nominee for 'Most Over-Reactionary Thread of the Year,' on par with -
"Is Tom Brady done?" - circa, September 2014
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:26 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:
He has no competition for balls. Only Antonio Brown has that type of scenario, except for the fact that Bell takes a ton of touches on the ground and in the air.
Antonio doesnt have competition because he is always running wide open. Same with Odell, they are elite at getting open.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:27 am to TheCaterpillar
Exactly. Top 5 is just stupid. People are asking, have you watched Beckham? What about Dez last night? Julio the past two weeks? AJ last week? Calvin on Thanksgiving? Brown every week?
His seven-game stretch is awesome, but it is not totally unprecedented. Look at Josh Gordon weeks 11-17 last year.
5/125/1
14/237/1
10/261/2
7/151/1
3/67/1
6/97
7/82
Gordon got 1,020 yards in seven- game stretch. Beckham has 866 yards in his run of form.
Beckham: 61/866/6
Gordon: 52/1020/6
His seven-game stretch is awesome, but it is not totally unprecedented. Look at Josh Gordon weeks 11-17 last year.
5/125/1
14/237/1
10/261/2
7/151/1
3/67/1
6/97
7/82
Gordon got 1,020 yards in seven- game stretch. Beckham has 866 yards in his run of form.
Beckham: 61/866/6
Gordon: 52/1020/6
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:30 am to dj30
I already acknowledged his elite separation skills, but you just can't put him above the top five in the game at this point.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:31 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:
Exactly. Top 5 is just stupid. People are asking, have you watched Beckham? What about Dez last night? Julio the past two weeks? AJ last week? Calvin on Thanksgiving? Brown every week?
His seven-game stretch is awesome, but it is not totally unprecedented. Look at Josh Gordon weeks 11-17 last year.
5/125/1
14/237/1
10/261/2
7/151/1
3/67/1
6/97
7/82
Gordon got 1,020 yards in seven- game stretch. Beckham has 866 yards in his run of form.
Beckham: 61/866/6
Gordon: 52/1020/6
Vicks Kennel Club bringing the thunder
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:33 am to LSU Piston
quote:
@BigBlueUnited: Odell Beckham Jr is the 3rd highest rated WR in the NFL this season according to @PFF (+15.5). #BEAST #OBJ
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:43 am to TTsTowel
Calvin Johnson
Demariyus Thomas
Antonio Brown
Jordy Nelson
Josh Gordon
Dez Bryant
Julio Jones
Randall Cobb
AJ Green
OBJ
Jeremy Maclin
Larry Fitzgerald
Deandre Hopkins
Andre Johnson
OBJ may be the most VALUABLE WR in the NFL. He's not the best, or even close to it. That's how I would rank them as far as being a complete WR and pure talent combined.
Demariyus Thomas
Antonio Brown
Jordy Nelson
Josh Gordon
Dez Bryant
Julio Jones
Randall Cobb
AJ Green
OBJ
Jeremy Maclin
Larry Fitzgerald
Deandre Hopkins
Andre Johnson
OBJ may be the most VALUABLE WR in the NFL. He's not the best, or even close to it. That's how I would rank them as far as being a complete WR and pure talent combined.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 10:44 am
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