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re: Odell Beckham, Jr. is the best receiver in the NFL
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:37 pm to LooseCannon22282
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:37 pm to LooseCannon22282
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have they been targeted as heavily?
yes more than a few have if you include guys like K Allen and S Smith who were getting more targets per game but are out now
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so fricking hilarious how some nerds want to crunch numbers all the time
funny how some nerd watches him catch with one hand in warmups with gloves that he can't wear during the game and crowns him "best hands" because of it.
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:39 pm to Boomshockalocka
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yes more than a few have if you include guys like K Allen and S Smith who were getting more targets per game but are out now
so they don't count.
got ya.
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unny how some nerd watches him catch with one hand in warmups with gloves that he can't wear during the game and crowns him "best hands" because of it.
he made a few catches tonight during the game to help prove my point.
you are a fricking joke man
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:40 pm to TigerBait1127
Fitz .8%
K Allen 1.1%
A Brown 1.4%
Garcon
Hurns
Hilton
Etc all in that range
K Allen 1.1%
A Brown 1.4%
Garcon
Hurns
Hilton
Etc all in that range
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:41 pm to LooseCannon22282
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he made a few catches tonight during the game to help prove my point.
Unreal hands and footwork....He should be declared illegal
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:42 pm to LooseCannon22282
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he made a few catches tonight during the game to help prove my point.
not exactly. Gotta get his drops down to the actual best if you wanna claim "best hands". That's pretty obvious.
But..but... did you see him in pregame??
GFTO
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:44 pm to Boomshockalocka
What website are you using?
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:45 pm to Boomshockalocka
you are trying way too hard.
stick to basketball or whatever man.
stick to basketball or whatever man.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:49 pm to TigerBait1127
Google dropped passes.
Sort by drop %
Scroll down to OBJ.
He's down around 30 or so. Hard to say he has the best hands when there are 30 guys ahead of him IMO.
Sort by drop %
Scroll down to OBJ.
He's down around 30 or so. Hard to say he has the best hands when there are 30 guys ahead of him IMO.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:53 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Google dropped passes.
Sort by drop %
Dropped passes brings up a bunch of websites.
It was a simple question. What website?
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He's down around 30 or so. Hard to say he has the best hands when there are 30 guys ahead of him IMO.
Different websites have different criteria for dropped passes. Hence the easy question
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:55 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Several marquee WRs have a lower drop %
then you listed Garcon afterwards on some list.
Garcon isn't a marquee WR and neither is Allen. I'm sorry but San Diego works the short passing game like no other.
hardly any explosive plays to be had in that Charger offense.
Julio also has had some fumble issues... i mean he's had a few big fumbles against the Saints in some of the good battles they've had over the years.
you are aware of that right? Julio has coughed it up in some big games vs. the Saints.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:56 pm to TigerBait1127
Was on laptop then on phone now. It was the first result.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:59 pm to Boomshockalocka
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funny how some nerd watches him catch with one hand in warmups with gloves that he can't wear during the game and crowns him "best hands" because of it.
I'm not sure if OBJ has the most consistent hands in the NFL, but if I need one guy to make an incredible catch, there is no one else I'd rather than OBJ.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 12:01 am to Boomshockalocka
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Was on laptop then on phone now. It was the first result.
So Sporting Charts, which defines a drop as:
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This statistic counts the number of times an intended receiver touches the ball but fails to catch it. I
So that one handed reach he had today, while getting pulled down, counts as a drop for this webiste.
And, according to that website, he has 2 drops in 133 targets. It also calculates the % based on number of targets, which is also retarded
2 drops all season. Pretty damn elite. According to that same website, Brown had a drop % of 2.8% last year too.
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 12:03 am
Posted on 12/15/15 at 12:03 am to Patton
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Julio had 7 for 88. Those other guys must have sucked.
Was Norman on him the whole time?
Posted on 12/15/15 at 12:08 am to Boomshockalocka
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And NYG will be more competitive so he'll get more chances.
I would think losing 38-0 would give Julio ample chances considering they were down and throwing the ball nearly the entire game.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 12:12 am to slackster
You would have better luck teaching a brick wall ASL
Posted on 12/15/15 at 12:33 am to Flair Chops
Regarding the Brown vs. Beckham debate, Brown didn't really play in his rookie season until he burst onto the scene with his helmet catch against Baltimore in the playoffs.
In his second season, he had over 1100 yards with 69 catches.
His stats took a dip in 2012 being hurt in a few games. And at the time, Mike Wallace was still the #1 WR in Pittsburgh.
But Brown made the jump in 2013 where he started putting up insane #s as the #1 WR.
Brown wasn't the featured WR in Pittsburgh's offense until his 4th season in the league. Beckham was featured right away.
In his second season, he had over 1100 yards with 69 catches.
His stats took a dip in 2012 being hurt in a few games. And at the time, Mike Wallace was still the #1 WR in Pittsburgh.
But Brown made the jump in 2013 where he started putting up insane #s as the #1 WR.
Brown wasn't the featured WR in Pittsburgh's offense until his 4th season in the league. Beckham was featured right away.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 12:50 am to boXerrumble
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Brown wasn't the featured WR in Pittsburgh's offense until his 4th season in the league. Beckham was featured right away.
Never like these arguments as you could just as easily say OBJ was featured right away because he was better from the start.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 12:54 am to FootballNostradamus
Of course Beckham was gonna start from day 1
Beckham was the #12 overall pick in the draft. Brown was the 195th pick in the 6th round
Brown also came into an offense whose two top WRs at the time were Mike Wallace and Hines Ward.
Beckham was the #12 overall pick in the draft. Brown was the 195th pick in the 6th round
Brown also came into an offense whose two top WRs at the time were Mike Wallace and Hines Ward.
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