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Not having a franchise QB is an excuse for unsuccessful NFL coaches
Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:45 pm
Bill Obrien will have won 28 games over the past 3 seasons with 8 different starting QBs to deal with. Not a single one of those guys was an an average starter or better.
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:46 pm to LandonC
The Dolphins won 11 games this year with two shitty QBs
Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:47 pm to LandonC
His division is dogshit. If he was in the NFC east he would have 4 four-win seasons.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:47 pm to Tiger Ryno
Exactly
Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:47 pm to goldennugget
The Broncos have won games with the corpse of Manning,Brock Osweiller, Tebow and Siemian . Build a team and a system and the qb will fall into place
Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:48 pm to goldennugget
Bill O'Brien is a great head coach. So is Adam Gase.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:48 pm to Tiger Ryno
In the same division the Titans and Colts have franchise qbs but don't win at his level
Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:48 pm to LandonC
He also had an elite defense already built for him, but I agree he's a good coach.
The number of coaches in NFL history who came in and truly built a franchise from nothing to legitimate title contender is pretty short.
The number of coaches in NFL history who came in and truly built a franchise from nothing to legitimate title contender is pretty short.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 6:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
Same defense that led them to 2-14 before he got there
Posted on 1/7/17 at 7:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The number of coaches in NFL history who came in and truly built a franchise from nothing to legitimate title contender is pretty short.
Why do you think that is?
Posted on 1/7/17 at 7:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
He brought in a lot of that defense, or at least developed them on his watch.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 7:41 pm to LandonC
All year everyone's been shitting on the Texans, now they beat a Raiders team with its 3rd stringer and Bill O'Brien is now a model coach?
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:07 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The number of coaches in NFL history who came in and truly built a franchise from nothing to legitimate title contender is pretty short.
In the Free agency era, the list is even shorter... I'd say only Belichick and Carroll (plus Schneider) did it, but both took over mediocre teams, not absolute dreck.
Pre free agency and cap era, there are a few more.
Jimmy Johnson is the obvious. Took over the worst team in the league and built them into a dynasty in basically 3 or 4 yrs.
Walsh did it too. The 49ers were horrendous when he started and basicilly built a 20 yr dynasty.
I would also maybe list Noll, but he wasn't the GM, nor were Lombardi or Landry. Parcells has to be o the list too, he may be the ultimate "fixer" in NFL history.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:07 pm to LandonC
Yea he's proped up a good bit by our terrible division
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:07 pm to LandonC
quote:& yet houston might pull a san francisco & run him off because he & GM doesn't get along
Bill Obrien will have won 28 games over the past 3 seasons with 8 different starting QBs to deal with. Not a single one of those guys was an an average starter or better
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:18 pm to td01241
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He brought in a lot of that defense, or at least developed them on his watch.
the defense is more complete then its been in the past.
The secondary isn't giving me heartburn anymore
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:25 pm to Jack Ruby
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In the Free agency era, the list is even shorter... I'd say only Belichick and Carroll (plus Schneider) did it, but both took over mediocre teams, not absolute dreck.
Jim Harbaugh turned a meh franchise into a super bowl contender. Who knows what happens if the lights stay on in New Orleans too.
It is a stretch given how it ended with the 49ers but it appears he is winning the divorce
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:39 pm to LandonC
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Bill Obrien will have won 28 games over the past 3 seasons
what's you point? I don't think that's very good; never should even make the playoffs with those records.
the man's a very good defensive coach. the texicans continue to refuse to draft a top QB. they are doomed to near mediocrity without one. their division sucks or they would not even have a .500 record.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:40 pm to LSU GrandDad
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the man's a very good defensive coach.
Go to bed, granddad.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:44 pm to LSU GrandDad
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the man's a very good defensive coach.
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Bill Obrien
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