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re: NFL to add 1 wild card team to each conference? (Dan Patrick report)

Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:18 pm to
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Current system is great.


It would be great if they did away with the seeding based on winning your division. Philly and Green Bay should have been playing in New Orleans and San Fran, not the other way around.

Fortunately the right teams won
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28361 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:18 pm to
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I don't get why fans would complain about this. 1 extra spot means my team has a slightly better chance of making the playoffs. Y'all are some negative mofos.


Because sometimes less is more. Getting to the playoffs isn't a big accomplishment when 40% - 50% of the league's teams get there. It's part of the reason why the first few rounds of the NBA playoffs are miserable. Why college football bowl season is losing fan interest.

The NFL is doing their best to screw up a good thing. A BIG part of why the NFL (and football in general) is so popular is that there are realatively few games in a season, and each team only plays once a week. Therefore, every game is a big deal and highly anticipated. The MLB plays 182 games with each team playing virtually every day. The NBA plays 82 games with each team playing just about every other day. Even the most hardcore baseball and basketball fans don't get very excited for a mid-week, mid-season regular season game. That's not the case in football. Every game is appointment TV. While baseball and basketball "oversaturate" you, football always leaves you wanting more. This is a great thing.

I always look at it this way. Would Christmas be so great and highly anticipated if it were once a week (or even once a month) instead of once a year?
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:23 pm to
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Because this weekends games were already boring as shite.

Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:28 pm to
I'm good with it. Before realignment there were some great wildcard matchups and (per an earlier thread) the higher seed got to host. Titans v Bills comes to mind as an all-timer.

I thought they killed the wildcard when the league shuffled the divis but Baltimore quickly proved that wrong, so eitherway I'll cope.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:32 pm to
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It would be great if they did away with the seeding based on winning your division. Philly and Green Bay should have been playing in New Orleans and San Fran, not the other way around.


Nah.

If you don't want a wild card, win your division and you get a home game.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60301 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:05 pm to
Your stance is idiotic.


Also, they won't do away with your idiotic stance. 1 seed will get bye, 3 other division winners will host first round games.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65956 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:06 pm to
hate it
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65956 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:07 pm to
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I don't get why fans would complain about this. 1 extra spot means my team has a slightly better chance of making the playoffs. Y'all are some negative mofos.



no. no. no.

my team will either earn it or not. i don't want another team having a chance at it. that just makes the road to the superbowl harder.

i hate change and all goodell ever does is change this game. he is such a f-ing joke.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65956 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

It would be great if they did away with the seeding based on winning your division. Philly and Green Bay should have been playing in New Orleans and San Fran, not the other way around.


now this I agree with.

winning your division should get you in the playoffs but seeding should be strictly on wins.

it's not fair that say a team like the colts who play in such an easy division get to host a team with the same record.. considering they get to play these bs teams twice..
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11334 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:12 pm to
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With that said, they have to draw the line somewhere and hopefully it is at 7 teams total per conference.


8 is such a nice round number though...
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19677 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:21 pm to
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no. no. no.

my team will either earn it or not. i don't want another team having a chance at it. that just makes the road to the superbowl harder.


This proposed change is only affecting one team, specifically the #2 seed who currently gets a bye.

I see no issue with making the #2 seed play the #7 seed at home.

The pros far outweigh the cons imho.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted by popeyeaux
Texas
Member since Aug 2008
696 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:29 pm to
Cardinals and Steelers say hell yeah

Call it the Bidwellrooney sore loser rule.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76672 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:43 pm to
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Because this weekends games were already boring as shite.


Yeah, like three of the four were not dramatic and down-to-the-wire.

quote:

No one cares about the chargers bengals etc. They aren't going to win, so why waste our time


Anyone who watches the NFL would not be shocked at all if the Niners, Colts, Chargers or Saints made the Super Bowl.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17101 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:02 pm to
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They need to seed based on records.this 12-4 team travel to a 9-6 team is stupid


It works both ways.

In 2011 the Giants were 9-7 and by that rule would have gone on the road to face 10-6 Atlanta instead. Problem being the Giants had a stronger SOS and SOV...same thing last year with Baltimore (10-6) and Indianapolis (11-5).

Point being, it is possible for a WC to luck into an easier schedule and pad their record by a game over a divisional winner...so, you aren't really solving a problem simply creating another one. The two cases I cited above aren't seen to be as egregious as 7-9 Seattle hosting, but there would be a problem created by changing it to seeding by record across the board.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:20 pm to
There's not enough good teams in the first place. So the solution is to add more mediocre teams?
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:42 pm to
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I usually appreciate your feedback on this site, so please enlighten me.

I'm aware that divisions were created because of travel cost, plain and simple. The need for divisions no longer exists, so I do not understand the need for a division winner and wildcards.

If you want to keep the regional rivalries in tact, then keep the teams in their divisional "pods" and play a round-robin conference schedule and then rotate a pod from the other conference each year.
Any division that exists will place its champion in the playoffs--that's inevitable. Wild cards exists on the whim of the league. The only "deserving" teams are the eight division winners. If you don't win your division, you run the risk of being left out regardless of how many wins you have.

There is no such thing as a "deserving" wild card team. Division winners earn their way into the playoffs; wild card teams are allowed in.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:43 pm to
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They need to seed based on records.this 12-4 team travel to a 9-6 team is stupid

How about, if you want a home playoff game, be better than the three teams in your division?
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60301 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:49 pm to
So if someone goes 16-0 and another team goes 14-2, tough shite the 7-9 division winner DESERVES to get in and host a playoff game over the 14-2 team?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:52 pm to
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So if someone goes 16-0 and another team goes 14-2, tough shite the 7-9 division winner DESERVES to get in and host a playoff game over the 14-2 team?
Listen carefully:

If you win your division, you earn a home game.
If you do not win your division, you do not earn a home game.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60301 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:57 pm to
Oh I hear you and it's fricking dumb.
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