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re: NFL to add 1 wild card team to each conference? (Dan Patrick report)

Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:02 pm to
You don't get it so you call it dumb.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:11 pm to
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You don't get it so you call it dumb.


Count me in as not getting it.

I really don't understand why winning your division is some useful metric when all divisions are not created equal.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:18 pm to
Im going to disagree with the down votes. I for one love the idea and IMO is no way is it getting like the Nba. Still plenty of teams left out of the playoffs but I think on many occassions some really good teams get left out of the NFL playoffs. Certainly only my 2 cents but I love football and 2 extra games to be played is okay by me. Certainly hope they have the votes.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:19 pm to
I like it. It does not an extra round of games. And in most seasons there are teams with winning records who don't make the playoffs.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:41 pm to
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Count me in as not getting it.
The 16-0 team won its division over a team so good that they went 14-2. The current system rewards the former by making the latter jump through hoops to earn a third shot with the former. There is nothing wrong with that.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:47 pm to
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I like it. It does not an extra round of games. And in most seasons there are teams with winning records who don't make the playoffs.


Having a winning season shouldn't guarantee a playoff spot.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:32 pm to
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The 16-0 team won its division over a team so good that they went 14-2. The current system rewards the former by making the latter jump through hoops to earn a third shot with the former.


That's true, but it also says that Philly is "more accomplished" than San Francisco and rewards the former with a home game.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:20 pm to
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That's true, but it also says that Philly is "more accomplished" than San Francisco and rewards the former with a home game.
The conflict between my argument and yours, the way I am seeing it, is that your argument sits more on the behalf of the wild card teams (who were not good enough to finish ahead of the three teams in their division) whereas mine sits more on the behalf of the best teams, period.

What a lot of us are ignoring is that because the 16-0 team did better than the 14-2 team all year, the current system favors them more than anyone. The 14-2 team is a wild card because the 16-0 team made them a wild card. I have no problem making that 14-2 team go on the road to earn their way to the Super Bowl.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 7:26 pm
Posted by thejudge
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:33 pm to
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Why are they always fricking shite up that doesn't need changed.


Jerry wants it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:46 pm to
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Any division that exists will place its champion in the playoffs--that's inevitable. Wild cards exists on the whim of the league. The only "deserving" teams are the eight division winners. If you don't win your division, you run the risk of being left out regardless of how many wins you have.

There is no such thing as a "deserving" wild card team. Division winners earn their way into the playoffs; wild card teams are allowed in.

the NFL should eliminate divisions
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68628 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:51 pm to
The only.good thing is NFL doesn't play a series. So you don't actually have to extend the season. Just have 3 games going instead of 2. NBA is horribly long. But this will give the 8-8 and 7-9 teams more if a chance to get in.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:56 pm to
Jerra doing bidness....
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 7:59 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:59 pm to
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the NFL should do whatever they want
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:02 pm to
divisions make no logical sense except maybe rivalries and shouldn't have this great significance

it makes the playoffs irrational, illogical messes...when the saints had to go to seattle we all should have learned this
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:41 am to
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divisions make no logical sense except maybe rivalries and shouldn't have this great significance it makes the playoffs irrational, illogical messes...when the saints had to go to seattle we all should have learned this
Nothing is more illogical and irrational than the point you are making here. The Saints didn't lose to Seattle because the NFL made the Saints travel to Seattle. The Saints lost to Seattle because the Seahawks scored more points than the Saints.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:44 am to
frickING LAME!!!

I'd rather see 3 divisions and ONE wildcard per conference.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:45 am to
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I don't get why fans would complain about this. 1 extra spot means my team has a slightly better chance of making the playoffs. Y'all are some negative mofos.



Why not just play off the entire damn league? Its 32 teams - that works out PERFECT - doesn't it? We'll let the regular season count only for seeding. Then EVERYONE can make the fricking playoffs - so EXCITING!!!
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 1:26 am to
This shitty argument was made and appropriately judged on page 1.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 1:30 am to
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This shitty argument was made and appropriately judged on page 1.


Bigger playoffs - SUCK. They're great for people who don't care so much for the rest of the year I guess.

Playoffs should only be designed to be big enough to make sure they include #1. In the NFL, 6 teams per conference is plenty. They should really just get RID of a wild-card team and only have 1.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 1:31 am
Posted by ballscaster
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26861 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:31 am to
Theoretically reasonable, but practically impossible, all things considered.
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