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Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:28 am to PeteRose
Coaches play not to lose to keep their jobs. Same reason they don't go for it on 4th down a lot.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:06 am to PeteRose
They could give a suite to the family of a madden player and give him a head set. Those top madden guys run circles around coaches for theory.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:29 am to BallChamp00
In general, I agree with you that the average fan is no where near the average coach when it comes to play calling and strategy. However, that doesn't mean that coaches are infallible nor are they exempt from criticism when they make a bone headed decision.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:31 am to td01241
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Higher chance of him fumbling and them running the ball back for the winning touchdown than Charles breaking one when the Broncos are in prevent defense.
If he breaks off a 25 yarder, then the strategy would change and they would have been playing for a FG.
It was minimal risk for minimal reward.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:50 am to PeteRose
Andy Reid has been blowing games for over 15 years due to poor clock management and bad play calling. 1st and goal from the 2 last night and he throws 3 straight passes. Some things never change 
Posted on 9/18/15 at 8:58 am to Sevendust912
It is amazing that anyone can defend that play call. KC was not trying to score with that play, they were trying to run the clock out. Bill Barnwell has been writing for what seems like 5 years about the stupidity of that strategy (instead of kneeling) because it leads to a chance of a turnover and a higher risk of injury for a meaningless play.
Any fumble would have lost the game for the Chiefs because the Broncos were in FG range. Hell, if Charles ran 15 yards and fumbled, they probably lose the game.
Any fumble would have lost the game for the Chiefs because the Broncos were in FG range. Hell, if Charles ran 15 yards and fumbled, they probably lose the game.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 9:14 am to PeteRose
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If you're trying to run out the clock, why not just take a knee? Why hand the ball off of it can be stripped?
What exactly does this have to do with game theory?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 9:19 am to John McClane
quote:i will trust Andy Reid and the 75 hours he spent on a short week working on the gameplay. Andy Reid has dedicated his life to offensive football and slaved in the film room and practice field to perfect his craft. How arrogant some people are to think they know better or have more invested than Andy fricking Reid. It's his life. It's an hour of your week. Yet you think somehow you're smarter or more qualified to make that call. Shame on us internet geniuses.
It was a terrible play call. What is wrong with you people?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 9:44 am to slackster
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Secondly, he had no chance of breaking one.
Oh really? So the best open field RB in the NFL has "no chance" of breaking a big gain on a soft zone defense?
NFL coaches do this all the time. When all you need is a field goal and you have under 30 sec with a timeout you run a safe play to see if he can pick up a chunk of yardage to get your team in a position to go after a FG to win it at the buzzer.
Fans would be calling out Reid if they kneeled to go to OT only to have Peyton go right down the field on them like he had just done in regulation.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 11:14 am to td01241
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Higher chance of him fumbling and them running the ball back for the winning touchdown than Charles breaking one when the Broncos are in prevent defense.
Yea, that isn't close to being true
And he doesn't need to break one for a TD...
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 11:14 am
Posted on 9/18/15 at 11:28 am to td01241
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Charles fumbles a good bit. He already fumbled once in this game. shite decision gets shite outcome.
He has 8 fumbles over the last 2 seasons in 575 touches
So he fumbles on 1.39% of all touches.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 11:43 am to barry
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What exactly does this have to do with game theory?
I have no idea!
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:01 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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i will trust Andy Reid and the 75 hours he spent on a short week working on the gameplay. Andy Reid has dedicated his life to offensive football and slaved in the film room and practice field to perfect his craft. How arrogant some people are to think they know better or have more invested than Andy fricking Reid. It's his life. It's an hour of your week. Yet you think somehow you're smarter or more qualified to make that call. Shame on us internet geniuses.
Every weekend I see 10 coaches with the lead late in the game run the ball on 3rd and medium and not try to get the first down because they want to run clock or make the opponent spend their last time out because it makes it that much harder to drive down the field and get in field goal range.
And then they punt and the opponent is in field goal range 4 plays later.
Just because you have a job and spend a lot of time working on stuff, it doesn't mean that you're actually good at it. If Andy Reid was good at his job, he'd still be in Philadelphia. Most NFL coaches have a job because either owners are too scared to take a chance on an unknown commodity, or their daddy was a coach which apparently means that you are an NFL coach for life.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:39 pm to TigerBait1127
A "good bit" is all relative. Compare that to the rest of the NFL.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:49 pm to TigerBait1127
Yes it is. You are a fool How often does Charles break 80 yard runs? I bet it's less than 8 times in the past two seasons, which is the amount of times your research says he fumbled. Factor in to that the Broncos defensive backs are giving a ton of cushion as to not get beat deep and you can conclude with confidence that won't get sucked into the line allowing Charles to get by them easily. Therefore he would have to break 5 or 6 tackles to break off this 80 yard run, after getting past the line of scrimmage on a draw the Broncos clearly knew was coming. But yeah, you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about the subject.
How often does Charles break 80 yard runs? I bet it's less than 8 times in the past two seasons, which is the amount of times your research says he fumbled. Factor in to that the Broncos defensive backs are giving a ton of cushion as to not get beat deep and you can conclude with confidence that won't get sucked into the line allowing Charles to get by them easily. Therefore he would have to break 5 or 6 tackles to break off this 80 yard run, after getting past the line of scrimmage on a draw the Broncos clearly knew was coming. But yeah, you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about the subject. 
Posted on 9/18/15 at 2:09 pm to td01241
I like to see the stats on 80yd TD run or longer with less than 1 minute in a game. I'm willing to say less than 2 in the last 5 years. That's over 1300 games including playoffs.
Another reason that no one has mentioned is that defenders are now so much better that ball stripping than 5-10 years ago. Balls are even more easily stripped when on defender holds the call carrier up while another defender goes for the strip.
Another reason that no one has mentioned is that defenders are now so much better that ball stripping than 5-10 years ago. Balls are even more easily stripped when on defender holds the call carrier up while another defender goes for the strip.
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