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New Rangers stadium: "one of the worst public projects anyone could imagine"

Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:34 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:34 pm
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ARLINGTON -- City of Arlington officials have touted a “50-50” private-public partnership to build a proposed $1 billion retractable roof stadium for the Texas Rangers.

A WFAA-TV investigation, however, has found taxpayers may instead pick up to 80 percent of the tab, which amounts to hundreds of millions of dollars more than initially promised by city leaders.

Last month, the Arlington City Council unanimously approved a “Master Agreement” to ask voters to extend sales, car rental, and hotel occupancy taxes that have been used to build AT&T Stadium, home of the Dallas Cowboys.


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But an analysis by WFAA-TV reveals that besides extending a half-cent sales tax, and levying hotel and car rental taxes, the approved agreement also includes millions of dollars of additional tax revenues that could flow to the Rangers.

Tucked in the agreement is a clause called the "admissions and parking tax" that allows for a 10 percent surcharge on event tickets and up to $3 additional surcharge on parking. State law allows cities to collect and use the taxes to build their stadiums. Arlington’s agreement, however, allows the Rangers to use the admissions and parking tax revenues to help pay their half of the construction costs.


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If collected for the 30-year life of the stadium, that’s $500 million dollars.

Allowing the Rangers to collect the same tax could mean an additional $10 million in revenues, or $300 million in revenues over 30 years to pay of the Rangers’ share of stadium construction costs.


Basically, with the way the agreement is worded, the revenue from this tax can be used by the owners to pay off the stadium. Apparently Jerry did it with the Cowboys and the Rangers will use it to pay off a lot of their stadium debt. What is worded a 50 50 public private deal is more like an 80 20 deal. Such a bullshite deal. Taxpayers get so shafted with these stadiums.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Slinger16
Not Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
21867 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:36 pm to
Isn't their current ballpark kinda new?
Posted by Kel Varnsen
Member since May 2013
1975 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:38 pm to
Yeah but it's hot as frick outside
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76518 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:40 pm to
It wasn't hot as frick outside in Arlington when they built it a few years ago, or is climate change a major thing there?
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:41 pm to
Poor Arlington Rangers
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8741 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:44 pm to
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t wasn't hot as frick outside in Arlington when they built it a few years ago, or is climate change a major thing there?


Nah. Some people are just wimps.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:46 pm to
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Isn't their current ballpark kinda new?


The current ballpark was built in the 90s and is still perfectly fine.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94481 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:46 pm to
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30-year life of the stadium



For $1 billion dollars can't we start building these fricking things to last more than 30 years? So in 2050, they'll be wanting a new $3 billion stadium because the 2020 stadium has become obsolete.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58058 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:51 pm to
Glad to see most of the DFW media jumping on this.

Jerry and the city of Arlington were able to slip this crap by last time.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:55 pm to
The public funding of stadiums in the US is shameful.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29151 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:01 pm to
Nice to see other teams following our lead.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:10 pm to
The Cobb County and Braves financing deal is a travesty. Just horrible.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 8:11 pm
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:11 pm to
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Isn't their current ballpark kinda new?


Just went there the other day. It's in great shape
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4550 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:15 pm to
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debt. What is worded a 50 50 public private deal is more like an 80 20 deal. Such a bullshite deal. Taxpayers get so shafted with these stadiums.


So wait a minute.....you're telling us that rich people are getting politicians to help them deceive the public with the end result being they get richer at the public's expense????


What are you going to tell is next? That Citibank makes a billion dollars a year by issuing EBT cards?
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29377 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:20 pm to
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The public funding of stadiums in the US is shameful.

Well I think it depends on the venue.

I'd say the investment in the Superdome by the state of Louisiana has been a pretty good one.

But dedicated use facilities, like a new Rangers ballpark, not so much.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101387 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:21 pm to
I hate the concept of disposable architecture.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56466 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:31 pm to
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30-year life of the stadium


this is crazy to me
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29151 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:45 pm to
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this is crazy to me


Me too. Didn't know stadiums lasted 30 years.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60148 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:47 pm to
Basically making the taxpayers foot part of the bill for past ownership fricking up by not putting a roof on the stadium. Awful
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26982 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:48 pm to
This is nuts. Just as nuts as making an open air stadium in Texas.

You fricking ROAST in the outfield and down the 3rd base line.
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