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New helmet technology starting to be used this year
Posted on 7/16/16 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 7/16/16 at 9:55 pm
The University of Washington will be wearing these for sure this season. I also read someone comment that Oregon, the Seahawks, and the Texans will also be wearing them, but that's just a rumor at the moment. The following article does mention that some NCAA and NFL teams will be using them this season.
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The Washington Huskies will be one of the first football teams to wear what coach Chris Petersen is calling a new “state of the art” helmet designed by Seattle startup Vicis, whose mission is to reduce the risk of concussions.
“All the testing, all the speculation (suggest that) there’s nothing like it on the market,” Petersen said. “You’re not going to take concussions out of the game with any sort of helmet, but we do think — from what we’ve been told and what we’ve seen and what’s out there — it’ll be the safest helmet on the market.”
The helmets cost an estimated $1,500 each, and the plan is for UW players to use only one helmet all season — for practices and games. In recent years, the Huskies have used four different helmets for games and another one for practices.
The University of Washington, awarded a $2.5 million grant from the NFL last year for concussion research, has been at the cutting edge of concussion research, so it’s fitting that the UW football team will be among the first to test out the new helmet. UW professor Per Reinhall co-founded Vicis with neurosurgeon Dr. Samuel Browd and Dave Marver, the company’s CEO.
Vicis’ Zero1 helmet is being released to a limited number of college and NFL teams this year, with a plan to distribute it more broadly next year, Marver said at the GeekWire Sports Tech Summit earlier this week in Seattle.
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Posted on 7/16/16 at 9:56 pm to TDawg1313
Good
Posted on 7/16/16 at 9:59 pm to TDawg1313
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The helmets cost an estimated $1,500 each,
How much do standard helmets cost? I'm guessing about $400?
Posted on 7/16/16 at 10:14 pm to TDawg1313
Seems like the way to go. Let the helmet absorb more energy by making it plyable.
Posted on 7/16/16 at 10:25 pm to KosmoCramer
think i saw a physics professor on tv say the best helmet would be one that allows the force to shatter the helmet instead of transferring it to the head ... gonna assume this is the same thinking ...
Posted on 7/16/16 at 10:43 pm to wilceaux
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How much do standard helmets cost?
Generally around 200-400$ but that's not including any added things such as chrome or matte finishes.
Posted on 7/16/16 at 10:48 pm to tiderider
With a softer helmet, helmet to helmet collisions will be better.
It's still not gonna prevent the whiplash concussions though.
It's still not gonna prevent the whiplash concussions though.
Posted on 7/16/16 at 10:50 pm to Rebel Land Shark
I don't foresee many programs dropping $150K for one set of helmets. I'm interested to see how they work out though.
Posted on 7/16/16 at 10:56 pm to JJ27
Price will go down if they prove effective.
Posted on 7/16/16 at 11:07 pm to JJ27
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I don't foresee many programs dropping $150K for one set of helmets. I'm interested to see how they work out though.
if they're at all more effective, you don't think they'll pay it? ... coaches make millions in salary/salaries ... pretty sure the universities will shell out the buck fifty for better protection for the players ...
Posted on 7/16/16 at 11:39 pm to tiderider
The problem is that the only way to reduce head injuries is to have a protective shell covering the brain inside the skull. Head injuries happen when the skull comes to a sudden stop but the brain continues to move forward and hits the skull. That's going to continue to happen as long as there's tackling and collisions happening in football. They need a way to keep the brain stationary inside the skull at all times for football players to be safe and that is virtually impossible. I really don't know what football can do to make the game safer.
This post was edited on 7/16/16 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 7/16/16 at 11:40 pm to JJ27
For sure they would. The money saved from less concussion related CT scans and concussion protocols would be enough to make it a viable alternative to current helmets.
This post was edited on 7/16/16 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 7/16/16 at 11:40 pm to tiderider
No matter the helmet design, 250 lb. players running 4.4 $0s and leading with their heads will end up in concussions. The true solution will be acceptance of rugby tackle.
Posted on 7/17/16 at 12:08 am to TDawg1313
For all the NFL talks about concussions, there are not requirements on helmets.
Go look at the models Tom Brady and Drew Brees wear. No different than a decade ago.
They have rules about sock color but they don't care about the fricking helmet?
Go look at the models Tom Brady and Drew Brees wear. No different than a decade ago.
They have rules about sock color but they don't care about the fricking helmet?
Posted on 7/17/16 at 12:15 am to Bench McElroy
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The problem is that the only way to reduce head injuries is to have a protective shell covering the brain inside the skull. Head injuries happen when the skull comes to a sudden stop but the brain continues to move forward and hits the skull. That's going to continue to happen as long as there's tackling and collisions happening in football. They need a way to keep the brain stationary inside the skull at all times for football players to be safe and that is virtually impossible. I really don't know what football can do to make the game safer.
This is correct.
One way to reduce the force with which the brain hits the inside of the skull is to reduce the force of one player's body on the other. If you take away the extra leverage created by cleats pushing off a grass or fieldturf surface, you could slow down players and lower collision impact. Possibly some type of flat shoe with a spongy surface of some sort? Just spit balling here.
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Posted on 7/17/16 at 12:25 am to TDawg1313
If I was the Equipment guy at UW I would not go anywhere near those until I saw what NOCSAE and Wright St said about them.
I was 100% Riddell and they were and are the best.
I was 100% Riddell and they were and are the best.
Posted on 7/17/16 at 12:26 am to SammyTiger
I have pointed this out before and find it ridiculous that the NFL also got rid of game/Px hats.
Posted on 7/17/16 at 7:54 am to TDawg1313
if you hit with the forehead, won't the "rubber" effect frick with the neck when it "bounces backward"?
Posted on 7/17/16 at 9:09 am to RidiculousHype
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This is correct.
One way to reduce the force with which the brain hits the inside of the skull is to reduce the force of one player's body on the other. If you take away the extra leverage created by cleats pushing off a grass or fieldturf surface, you could slow down players and lower collision impact. Possibly some type of flat shoe with a spongy surface of some sort? Just spit balling here.
Probably would see an increase in other types of injuries with this. But most likely not life threatening ones.
Posted on 7/17/16 at 9:27 am to SammyTiger
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For all the NFL talks about concussions, there are not requirements on helmets. Go look at the models Tom Brady and Drew Brees wear. No different than a decade ago. They have rules about sock color but they don't care about the fricking helmet?
The thing that always gets me is the skinny/single strap chin strap Aaron Rodgers uses. To go along with the old model Ridell helmet. Shouldn't the NFL force him to change chi straps at least?
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