re: NCAA Conference Realignment?

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quote: Yep. They shouldn't be, but they are. SEC = 14 ACC = 14 Big 10 = 14 PAC-12 = 12 Big XII = 10 ND = 1 Yeah, Notre freakin' Dame shouldn't be part of the powers...their own Network deal - 11 (Claimed) National Titles - (plus 11 other "Bama titles = 22 Bama Titles) - 7 Heisman winners, most famous coach in history, most renowned rivalry in CFB history - with most Heismans + All-Americans playing in that inter-sectional game) and one of only 5 schools you can't write the history of CFB w/o including them. But yeah...they should be treated like Boise State and BYU.

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Did not realize Paul Bear Bryant coached at ND...

And ND relevance is continuing to decrease...about another generation and they will have hard decisions to make

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seems like BS, they should have to join a conference.

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Yea the future of CFB is going to be 4 or 5 superconferences that only play each other with a true 8 team playoff. If they want in on that process, they need to become full members of a conference. It would be like the Cowboys in the NFL saying they are "independent" of any division or conference and want to make their own NFL schedule, yet they want to be included in the playoff system.

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Yea the future of CFB is going to be 4 or 5 superconferences that only play each other with a true 8 or 10 team playoff.

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People seem to think this but I'm not sure it will be true. The SEC for example has only prestige and money to lose if the other conferences are granted increased equivalency in the eyes of the general public. Splitting the pie more equally between the major conferences is only an advantage if you in a conference with a lesser amount of pie.

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And ND relevance is continuing to decrease

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and yet they literally just went to a national title game, signed a brand new TV contract, and had 8 players selected in the 2014 NFL draft

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for what, 5 years now, we have delusionists claiming we'd have superconferences and every single year it doesnt happen.

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Huh? You've got a couple conferences already branching out to 14. When Texas can be wooed to the Pac 12 which already had legs, everything will be in place to have 4 16 team conferences.

Not sure. There will be some geographic concerns for a couple of schools, but overall it should work. I mean it isn't like WVA in the B12 makes much sense.

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Huh? You've got a couple conferences already branching out to 14. When Texas can be wooed to the Pac 12 which already had legs,

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It had legs until Texas said no to profit sharing on an equal basis as a prerequisite for entry into the PAC. They made the wrong decision on that IMO, adding OU and Texas to the PAC would have meant a very strong PAC product that would have competed for viewership favorably with the Big 10 and SEC... now they have the LHN and a lousy conference they are locked into until their GOR agreement expires in more than a decade.

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Let me guess who the other four are... Princeton, Rutgers, Alabama, and Miami

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What?

That's crazy talk.

Michigan (basically owned college football with ND before 1950.)

Oklahoma

USC

Notre Dame

Ohio State

(You can't ignore those)

Nebraska is on the cusp and so is Alabama...but Bama has a lot of controversy due to the segregated South and the South where they were total crap in football. They were.

I think Texas, Nebraska and Alabama and Florida State and Miami all have a story to tell and they are all somewhat even...but not greater than the ones about them.

The SEC sucked for so many years...White bread country-club football - sportswriters actually questioned once...if the South would ever produce a real football contender...(no offense, but it was considered sort of dogshite Boise State white boy stuff - it's why the South gleamed onto Bama...first team to get great recognition...through canny politicking and winning...Bama became the poster-child and saved the South in football.

So some of that challenge...became manufactured...There were real titles and real recognition. Like LSU in the 50's...a real title because most teams were still white.

But Bama won most of their shite when teams they didn't play were black. Bama won a lot of white on white titles - while ducking in bowl games - black opponents.

but later...a lot of titles that are sort of made up after the fact. I know Bama was pride of the South during the 60's and 70's to get the SEC some recognition after being considered a second-class conference...like the modern day WAC...with just white boys running around a field.

So Bama's pre-1980 history isn't so awesome - nor is the SEC.

SEC is king now...because (god forbid!) the African-American athlete came back from the North after the 1930's-40's-50's-60's - generation.

The reason the North was king in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's is the black southern athlete had gone West and North.

The West and Midwest was king.

Ohio State and Michigan and Michgan State...had the best athletes bar none for 30 years...but mostly USC - more All-Americans than anyone and not even close from 1960-1990. Kicked the shite out of Bama multiple times.

SEC was basically bullshite until the late 80's early 90's - just slow late-night crap - we used to get it on ESPN and you would watch games and say...why are these guys stuck in mud..

At that time Ohio State was fast...far faster than the SEC...Michigan was fast.

I remember watching on ESPN in the 80's...SEC was kind of considered like WAC in California. But without the talent of the WAC. Everyone seemed so slow and the football was so neanderthal...run up the middle, run up the middle, run up the middle.

Well things changed...Talent moved back South. So the SEC is far far far greater than it ever was under Bear Bryant's days - shite, that guy had it easy playing against weak competition everyday...

Saban is playing the country - full integration. Bryant had a rigged atmosphere that the rest of the country considered a joke, an affront, a blight on society and disregarded their accomplishments...see 1966. That's a statement - you all ain't playing real football white jokers. Because we just realized...hey, black guys are kind of better and if you avoid them...you kinda suck.

You can't write it without the true inventors...who played everyone...and won and won and have more Heismans, and far more All-Americans than anyone else...

These are the schools with the most titles, most all-americans, and most NFL draft picks by far and most prestige, etc.

Michigan
Notre Dame
USC
Ohio State
Oklahoma

You would have to mention these schools in talking about the history of college football.

Bear Bryant's time was brief...you could edit out the segregated years...and maybe give Bama two or three real titles over the years.

They are only a big deal in the South - never been a big deal outside. They stand for make believe titles...they stand for make believe re-telling and re-education of the Civil War that has gone on.

They stand for folderol and continued poppy-cock.

Why does the South have so much problems ever telling the truth about shite. Everything has to be hidden or white-washed.

Be a frickin' man and say...yeah, we weren't that great then but we're great now...because we accepted blacks and then dominate our teams...

And win everything...

And we're supposed to believe ALL-WHITE BAMA TEAMS WERE some great teams?

History lesson kids - they were Boise State of the 60's and 70's.

BEAR GOT A PASS FROM RACIST SPORTS WRITERS.

NOBODY WITH A BRAIN BELIEVED THOSE BAMA TEAMS WERE HALF AS GOOD AS INTEGRATED NORTHERN WEST COAST TEAMS. (Unless today, you still believe white guys are the best athletes alive - as people did believe back then.)

When not even half white teams can win shite today...but plenty of black teams were in college football during Bear's run as "great coach" who played against white teams"...but seemed to always be miserably killed and routed whenever he played an integrated team.

Why is that?

LINK

I don't mean to disparage the South - but c'mon?

The SEC was total bullshite in teh 1950's and 1960's...like playing Idaho State every week.

What a crock!

SEC is awesome now and they are king...but it hasn't been from the help of the local populace or fans...who tried to make it all-white...well the black families came back...and that black people you drove out - came back and now have made it the best conference.

But Alabama today is the best it's ever been...bar none - in terms of real talent and real victories.

Saban has the talent - Bryant - I think he was a great coach but he was working with half-arse talent and his titles are total frauds.

I firmly believe that this next round of expansion is coming. Once the specifics of this new autonomy sorts itself out, the few schools mentioned will absolutely be begging to get into the P5.

In regards to the Big 12, all the other conferences have 12 schools with a championship game. The new playoff selection committee has already stated numerous times that strength of schedule and championship games will be weighed heavily in their selection process. All its going to take is for the Big 12 to have one of their teams get passed over for a team from a conference with a championship game and then they will be expanding faster then you can spell it. Plus once they see the revenue these other conferences are pulling in, its only a matter of time. I really think that the Big 12 will eventually add BYU, Houston and Cincinnati. Expands their markets and brings in two average to above average programs. BYU has a great following and Cincinnati is a talent rich area. The chance for Texas and Oklahoma to get into the state of Ohio has to at least make them think about it. I alsot believe that darkhorse addition to the Big 12 is New Mexico. GROWING market with a quality Basketball and Baseball program. Football is on the rise. Thats one to watch out for.

North:

Oklahoma St
Kansas
Kansas St
Iowa St
West Virginia
Cincinnati*
BYU*

South:

Texas
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
TCU
Baylor
Houston*
New Mexico*

For the Big 12, thats about as good as it can get if you ask me. That would be a pretty balanced conference with the possibility of some good conference championship games. There really isnt much more they can do, other then fold and be absorbed by the other P5 conferences.