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Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:23 pm to shel311
Interesting idea. I don't know enough to comment, so I will wait for vengeanceofrain to chime in.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:24 pm to shel311
Let me throw this in: make every player a free agent at the end of every season.
Too extreme? OK, allow each team to protect five players, everyone else becomes a FA.
Too extreme? OK, allow each team to protect five players, everyone else becomes a FA.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:24 pm to cas4t
quote:
heavy?
Also, how is he NBA currently top heavy? Look at who is left in the playoffs....
I don't know if this would classify as top heavy, but the NBA as it stands now really has 3-4 teams every year in the playoffs that have a legitimate shot of winning the title and 12-13 other teams that are just there. This is much different from the NFL and MLB. I would say the NBA has the biggest gap between talent from worst team to best team as well
I actually like the idea in the OP a lot. I don't think it would make it more top heavy. Eliminating the draft in the NBA to me is a great idea because it helps get rid of the tanking aspect
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:25 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Make it an auction keeper league.Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:25 pm to c on z
quote:Becuase it's awesome!
Why have a hard cap if you don't want max salaries?
But seriously, I wasn't sure what you're getting at, can you elaborate?
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:25 pm to apfour21
quote:Why do you think this proposed system would remain top heavy?
It is top heavy and always is because like always there were only like 4 actually good teams this year.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:25 pm to shel311
Shoe companies would pay them more for joining certain teams in certain markets or with their current players. Nike or whoever would pay BS way more to join Team A as opposed to Team B and he'd end up making more money but wouldn't affect the cap.
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:26 pm to shel311
I think it would fun. But idk how much I personally like it. I just love the draft.
Rookies would sign with top teams. I mean, take Ben Simmons for example. Say LA has 4M to offer and PHI has 16M to offer. Easy choice right? But wait, in LA he can sign a 60M shoe deal. In Philly they're going to take the wait and see approach and give him 30 before breaking the penny bank on him.
Rookies would sign with top teams. I mean, take Ben Simmons for example. Say LA has 4M to offer and PHI has 16M to offer. Easy choice right? But wait, in LA he can sign a 60M shoe deal. In Philly they're going to take the wait and see approach and give him 30 before breaking the penny bank on him.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:26 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I like the idea too. It was my understanding that the poster I responded to was referencing top heavy as the teams with the most money are the best. Which is not the case.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:27 pm to cas4t
No I meant top heavy just in top teams are waaaaaay better than the next tier.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:28 pm to apfour21
Shoe companies currently do that due to TV exposure and brand. I believe the OPs system would even the playing field in both categories. You're using the old system line if thinking to refute the OPs new system. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:28 pm to shel311
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What you got as the biggest flaws?
For one, I'd be worried about top-level rookies joining a team like GS on a low-end deal just to get a ring.
Do I appreciate the sentiment? Yeah, of course. Do I think it would be widespread? No, I don', but it could happen.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:30 pm to slackster
GS doesn't need that rookie though. Now we've got trade deals. shite would be interesting IMO
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:31 pm to cas4t
Yeah that's why I prefaced my comment. Definitely not the case.
My biggest complaint about the NBA in general is how many meaningless playoff series there are. A series in the NBA playoffs between two legit title contenders might be the best postseason event in pro sports (OKC-SA and OKC-GSW being perfect examples this year) but the others dilute it, then couple that with the NBA Playoffs taking so long from a time standpoint
I've always wanted to take the 8 best NBA teams and seed them regardless of conference and play it that way but that's a separate thread
Would there be a standard length for rookie contracts in this system? Would the signing period for rookies just run concurrent with free agency?
My biggest complaint about the NBA in general is how many meaningless playoff series there are. A series in the NBA playoffs between two legit title contenders might be the best postseason event in pro sports (OKC-SA and OKC-GSW being perfect examples this year) but the others dilute it, then couple that with the NBA Playoffs taking so long from a time standpoint
I've always wanted to take the 8 best NBA teams and seed them regardless of conference and play it that way but that's a separate thread
Would there be a standard length for rookie contracts in this system? Would the signing period for rookies just run concurrent with free agency?
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:33 pm to apfour21
quote:Say Team A has $800K and Team B has $20-25mil. I don't think it's as simple as you're making it out to be.
Shoe companies would pay them more for joining certain teams in certain markets or with their current players. Nike or whoever would pay BS way more to join Team A as opposed to Team B and he'd end up making more money but wouldn't affect the cap.
You'd likely have a minimum salary for each player as well. So again, a good team maybe not even have the cap room to sign a rookie to the minimum floor, so they theoretically couldn't even offer a rookie a deal.
And even if you're sorta right and that does happen some, it'll level itself out because that just continues to leave more and more money available for other teams. At some point, top players will gravitate towards that money.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:34 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I'd assume it would run concurrent with free agency, but that's without really thinking it through..
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:35 pm to cas4t
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shite would be interesting IMO
Yeah, it would, but I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that my beliefs on free-market capitalism are polar opposite to the way I like my sports leagues to run. I want parity and as level a playing field as possible. My biggest issue with the NBA is max salaries. Makes absolutely no sense to me and, if anything, it hurts small-market teams. If OKC wants to pay through the roof for KD to keep him from going to LA (hypothetically), then so be it. Being able to have a contract that is one year longer than LA is not all it's cracked up to be IMO.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:36 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:I'd love this as well.
I've always wanted to take the 8 best NBA teams and seed them regardless of conference and play it that way but that's a separate thread
And my stolen idea would also eliminate the other 24 teams from tanking as there's no incentive to do so.
quote:I'd prefer no.
Would there be a standard length for rookie contracts in this system?
quote:Yea, just make em free agents as soon as their college careers end...or I guess it would be make them eligible the following NBA season, haven't thought that part through.
Would the signing period for rookies just run concurrent with free agency?
Posted on 5/18/16 at 4:37 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
You would have teams planning open cap space for a loaded rookie class like they do for free agency now which would be interesting. It would be fascinating to see what a player like Simmons or KAT would go for as a rookie vs what a current max type free agent would go for
You would definitely see the shite front office exposed even quicker under this system IMO which I like
Definitely. You would have teams signing vets to one year deals I think to limit the amount of money committed long term, but that would still create a more competitive bad team than we have now.
You would definitely see the shite front office exposed even quicker under this system IMO which I like
quote:
And my stolen idea would also eliminate the other 24 teams from tanking as there's no incentive to do so.
Definitely. You would have teams signing vets to one year deals I think to limit the amount of money committed long term, but that would still create a more competitive bad team than we have now.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 4:40 pm
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