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re: NBA Trade Deadline about 24 hours away
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:10 pm to RTR America
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:10 pm to RTR America
KJ McDaniels is gonna be a nice piece for Houston, much better than Canaan and a 2nd.
It just seems like the 76ers aren't really thinking other then acquire picks we don't care who we lose.
McDaniels is better than Canaan, but it makes sense since they traded MCW and needed another guard.
It just seems like the 76ers aren't really thinking other then acquire picks we don't care who we lose.
McDaniels is better than Canaan, but it makes sense since they traded MCW and needed another guard.
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:19 pm to fightingtigers98
For this interested I think Grantland is putting up a shoot around on today's event in a couple hours or so. I know I need it.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:21 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Sam Hinkie doesn't want to be good. He wants to be great. He worked with Morey in Houston. It's pretty clear that he knows you can pile assets more quickly if you tank, and that he knows that MCW isn't ever going to be a super star. You need some of those to really compete. The 76ers are going to land a stud in the draft and then make a trade to land a super star, and they will suddenly be great. It's so hard to crack the elite tier, but the 76ers are attempting to skip the good tier straight to the top.
True Superstars don't get traded. Harden has become one but he wasn't when he was traded. And even then, he wouldn't have been traded if the Thunder didn't have what they saw as 4 young max guys on the roster.
Morey kept viable players on his Houston teams until he was finally able to land the big trade. The Rockets were on that "mediocrity treadmill" for a while before they were able to pull it off.
Plus there's the fact that the Thunder model is almost surely not something you can plan to replicate. You have to suck the right amount, draft the right players, and hope the right players don't get taken before your picks.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:23 pm to CrippleCreek
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True Superstars don't get traded. Harden has become one but he wasn't when he was traded. And even then, he wouldn't have been traded if the Thunder didn't have what they saw as 4 young max guys on the roster.
Sign and trades happen all of the time. This is what they'd be aiming for.
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Morey kept viable players on his Houston teams until he was finally able to land the big trade. The Rockets were on that "mediocrity treadmill" for a while before they were able to pull it off.
Yup. And Finkie isn't as patient in this regard as Morey. It seems like Finkie's plan is taking longer, but people forget that Morey had been stockpiling assets since 2007. It just wasn't as covered because he wasn't tanking.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:32 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Sign and trades happen all of the time. This is what they'd be aiming for.
That involves convincing that FA that he wants to entrust the prime of his career with the organization and Hinkie. I can't imagine he has a lot of trust among the players in the NBA.
With the new cap and the new contract lengths half the league has super max room every single offseason. How do the 76ers sell players against that?
They have to get the right lottery pick. The Davis or the Durant or the Lebron and then aggressively build around him. That is, has been, and will always be the way to build winners in the NBA.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:36 pm to CrippleCreek
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@AndyGlockner So now Hinkie's being killed for "giving up" on a lottery pick who wasn't all that good? Okkkkkkk
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:37 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Yup. And Finkie isn't as patient in this regard as Morey. It seems like Finkie's plan is taking longer, but people forget that Morey had been stockpiling assets since 2007. It just wasn't as covered because he wasn't tanking.
He has one playoff series win to show for it. The unlimited love supply for Morey is bizarre.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:44 pm to ShamelessPel
quote:It's like people forget that the franchise players had career-ending or career-ruining injuries.
He has one playoff series win to show for it. The unlimited love supply for Morey is bizarre.
It would be like if Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook were always injured during Presti's tenure and then faded into obscurity.
Despite that, Morey's teams never had a losing record.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
So the thunder turn Perkins into Enes Kanter, and we have 5 teams switch quality guards, and we are talking about the Rockets getting KJ frickING MCDANIELS for 3 pages?
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:47 pm to SwaggerCopter
Hinkie's plan is smart and he gave himself a ridiculous amount of job security. He has two more years to see if this works. If it doesn't he will be loathed by Philadelphia fans more than maybe any other person is.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:47 pm to Hester Carries
Morey bruh
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:49 pm to RTR America
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@AndyGlockner So now Hinkie's being killed for "giving up" on a lottery pick who wasn't all that good? Okkkkkkk
If the plan was tear down to the studs and build through the lottery and now he's tearing down again the ire is pretty justified. They just gave away the two most productive pieces they've drafted.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:53 pm to saintsfan22
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@rjOKCson_15: Crying tears of joy #godisgreat
This seems a little dramatic Reggie...
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:54 pm to PrimeTime Money
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It's like people forget that the franchise players had career-ending or career-ruining injuries.
It would be like if Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook were always injured during Presti's tenure and then faded into obscurity.
Despite that, Morey's teams never had a losing record.
Some people think Morey is overrated, but championships take lots of luck. All you can ask of a GM is that he makes smart moves and works his arse off. That is what Morey does.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:57 pm to Dawgsontop34
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This seems a little dramatic...
Welcome home, Reginald.
#thefrickINGWALL
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:00 pm to saintsfan22
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If the plan was tear down to the studs and build through the lottery and now he's tearing down again the ire is pretty justified.
They got rid of fricking Michael Carter Williams and KJ McDaniels. You're acting like they gave up Durant.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:03 pm to RTR America
+1 somebody was going to put up numbers on that team, MCW was the biggest beneficiary of that. I don't think he'll ever be seen as much better than an average starting PG.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:05 pm to EnjoyBoy
Enjoyboy please don't ever start another thread again
Posted on 2/19/15 at 5:10 pm to RTR America
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They got rid of fricking Michael Carter Williams and KJ McDaniels. You're acting like they gave up Durant.
Not really but there should be a floor at some point, no? They just pulled the trapdoor again. You're kind of back to ground zero and there's a good chance you traded MCW for nothing and McDaniels for the slim slim hope to get lucky and hit on another him in the 2nd rd.
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