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re: My biggest fear about CFP has come true!
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:17 am to monkeybutt
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:17 am to monkeybutt
quote:Well you can't spell lose but I'm still listening to your case. So cut me some slack, will ya?
Wait a second, you don't even know that USC is 9-3, and you're making all these arguments? Come on man
And yes I know they started 1-3 or something like that. I think.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:25 am to champj3
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College football used to be all about what your team accomplished not the dreaded eyeball test! My favorite game is now unrecognizable!
Are you sure you've followed college football in the past?
Determining a college football champion in the past has always been by the "eyeball test" -- right or wrong, that is the tradition.
Unless, I suppose you want to say it wasn't really the eyeball test since the coaches and media voting for the champion did not actually watch the games and just voted for the more famous team with a good record from their region.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:34 am to ReauxlTide222
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Most likely because Oklahoma wasn't good at football.
Ding Ding Ding!
The B12 is a joke, teams either have offense, defense, or neither. OU cake walked the conference because they were the only team to show a pulse both on offense and defense.
Replace an undefeated WMU in your top 8 and it's fine, but Houston was not as good this year as they were expected to be. If they get a good coach though, they could be on mid 2000s Boise level in a couple of years with the talent Herman was able to get there.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:37 am to champj3
Division 2 has a playoff system where 14 teams get into the playoffs and they have a CBB type march madness. Each of these teams play 10 games in a season and then potentially 5 more if they make it all the way to the Championship game. The NCAA hosts this with no problems.
Why can't D1 do this exact same thing?
Why can't D1 do this exact same thing?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:40 am to TigerBait1127
So if LSU would have went undefeated besides losing to Alabama they would not have won the division or the conference...therefore even though LSU would have beaten Wisconsin, Auburn and Florida with just one loss to the team some people are debating to be the greatest ean of all time...we wouldn't deserve to go to the CFP??? "Just showing the flaws in your logic"....moron...
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:41 am to CHiPs25
Greg McElroy was whining about logistical problems this morning if you go to 8 and have home games. He was basically saying schools are not ready to host playoff games on short notice and you won't have hospitality for sponsors, etc. 
I'm with you. NCAA needs to take control of this and not outsource the product.
I'm with you. NCAA needs to take control of this and not outsource the product.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:41 am to champj3
If the team names and situations were reversed with Ohio St beating Penn St in regular season and winning the B1G Championship game it wouldn't be a debate who would've gone to the playoffs
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:03 am to Bunk Moreland
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Greg McElroy was whining about logistical problems this morning if you go to 8 and have home games. He was basically saying schools are not ready to host playoff games on short notice and you won't have hospitality for sponsors, etc. I'm with you. NCAA needs to take control of this and not outsource the product.
I heard McElroy yesterday and he was making the same statement that Meyer & Saban have made in that 16 games is just too much to ask for college athletes. If you go to 8, you'd have to make changes to the regular season and/or scholarship limits.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:07 am to FairhopeTider
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16 games is just too much to ask for college athletes.
I'll buy it if the argument is wear and tear. But, if it's about not missing class, that's ridiculous. Games are on weekends and I'm guessing players pretty much only miss Friday class for travel. It's 1000x worse in hoops. Mich St basketball has been to Hawaii, Bahamas, NYC, and North Carolina all in the first month of the season.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:16 am to Bunk Moreland
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I'll buy it if the argument is wear and tear. But, if it's about not missing class, that's ridiculous
My argument has nothing to do with classes but I can see Presidents leaning on that.
Basically, the 85 man roster was created when we had 12 games with 70 plays per game. Now we're talking about adding a 16th game when we have 15-20 more plays per game. In the current environment about player safety, there will be a lot of objection over that unless you also reduce the number of regular season games.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:13 am to champj3
There's a medium between irrelevant and the end-all. The conference championships are STILL somewhere in there, despite all of the kneejerk outrage of the past three days. It's not irrelevant, and it's not the most important thing.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:20 am to schwartzy
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Penn State had two losses...one a blowout loss
In history there have been quite a few champions who had a blowout loss in September.
Recovered, improved and won the vote.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:36 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
But any with two losses that were blown out?
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 11:41 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:45 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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In history there have been quite a few champions who had a blowout loss in September.
Recovered, improved and won the vote.
How far back in history you talking?
Can you provide some examples?
I just quickly scanned through around the 80's and didn't really see any champion that met this criteria.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:11 pm to Bham Bammer
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kneejerk outrage
And that's the problem. Everyone assumes that because it wasn't tidy & neat this year that we have to blowup the current system and find something else. College Football fans can't seem to look beyond the current situation. There has always been controversy in college football and there will always be controversy in college football until 50 Power 5 programs breakaway, form their own league, and have a uniform playoff format. At the end of the day, it will be really hard for anyone to lay claim to the title when one of the playoff teams wins in Tampa and that is the entire point.
Penn State lost the right to complain the moment they got a second loss. The Buckeyes lost the right to complain the moment they lost their division. The selection committee had no obligation to make conference championship the ultimate criteria for selection.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:33 pm to champj3
Keep it at 4
There aren't always 8 teams deserving a shot at the title.
The playoffs should be exclusive and hard to get into. Barely making it into the top 10 shouldn't be enough to win the title
There aren't always 8 teams deserving a shot at the title.
The playoffs should be exclusive and hard to get into. Barely making it into the top 10 shouldn't be enough to win the title
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:51 pm to Hot Carl
quote:none do now... the Ivy League will have a tournament in March
You're wrong for the most part. Most conferences award their tournament winner with the auto bid, I think only 1 or 2 award the regular season champs.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:01 pm to AnOddDevice
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8 conferences - 16 teams per. That's 128 teams, which CFB is already pretty close to. Each division crowns a champ and each conference gets a championship game. 8 conference winners are seeded into a bracket. Done.
Not so fast my friend
So teams will only play games within their own conference? How will you decide which conference teams will be on the schedule year in year out? How many games do you want the regular season to be? What about bowl games? Are you realigning conferences? Are you creating new ones??
It's not as easy as just throwing shite at the wall like a lot of you guys want to think... there are a lot of logistics and conflicts that need to be worked out, you can't just 'fix' the playoffs and destroy the regular/conference season in the process
I'm curious to see your answers but I know you won't have any
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:20 pm to Mr. Hangover
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It's not as easy as just throwing shite at the wall like a lot of you guys want to think... there are a lot of logistics and conflicts that need to be worked out, you can't just 'fix' the playoffs and destroy the regular/conference season in the process
Nailed it.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:22 am to FairhopeTider
Told you he wouldn't come back and explain...
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