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My biggest fear about CFP has come true!

Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:42 am
Posted by champj3
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
267 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:42 am
Just like in college basketball, a conference championship is now irrelevant to selection committee. It sends the wrong message when penn state is left out for Ohio st who didn't even win the big 10 east. Much like Bama in 2011 who got in over Oklahoma st and didn't even win sec west.

College football used to be all about what your team accomplished not the dreaded eyeball test! My favorite game is now unrecognizable!
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9033 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:44 am to
Penn State had two losses...one a blowout loss. Ohio State's schedule looked more impressive to me as one of the best teams in the country. PSU didn't have the depth to compete with Alabama because they're still recovering from sanctions.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27307 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:44 am to
The BCS had the same 4 teams that the playoff does.

If we still had the BCS system, the results would be the same.
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:45 am to
That wasn't his point
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9348 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:45 am to
Yet penn state had the depth to beat Ohio state, this argument doesn't hold water
Posted by tigamike
Member since Jun 2005
5114 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:45 am to
The only fix is to go to an 8 team playoff with each of the power 5 conference champs getting an automatic spot and then 3 at large selections
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:46 am to
Ohio st is probably much better than Penn St despite the loss if you look at the whole season. But yes, penn st is more deserving. That's why I wish there were more teams (8) and you had conference champs as automatic entries plus a few wild cards.
Posted by AnOddDevice
Member since Apr 2016
215 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:46 am to
8 conferences - 16 teams per. That's 128 teams, which CFB is already pretty close to.

Each division crowns a champ and each conference gets a championship game.

8 conference winners are seeded into a bracket.

Done.
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:49 am to

Why subject this to a committee if the bcs gets the sane teams?

Why ever risk possible bias.. just bring back the bcs and get rid of the stupid committee.

Also im not a big expansion playoff person but I'm starting to agree with 6 or 8
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 6:50 am
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36847 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:49 am to
I agree with Champj3.
Presently, the selection is purely subjective.
That said, the Bama's, Ohio State'shape, etc. will always get top recruits. Things will never level out because regular conference don'the matter!.
That is not the direction in college football I want to see.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27826 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:49 am to
It's difficult when teams can play such different schedules even within the same division of a conference. I think the better set up would be to reduce the regular season to 8 games. Then divide all teams into tiered 8 team playoff groupings. Every team will play 3 games within that grouping to determine final ranking. Based on the results of those grouping you will go to a bowl game or final 4 match up for the champion. Yes its a bit more complex but it will treat the players fairly and eliminate schedule bias. Also it eliminates the creeping additional games that have been added each season. College players shouldn't be playing 15 games.
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:49 am to
Would be nice too see conference champs mean more
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6584 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:50 am to
So you are giving the Sun Belt a seat at the playoff table? Good God, man.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10535 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:54 am to
Winning the conference championship that Penn State into the Rose Bowl, so I would hardly say it's meaningless.
Posted by Lesmilesdoesntfloss
Da boot
Member since Aug 2015
173 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:55 am to
I hate how everyone is on the over reaction bandwagon on this crap, this isn't the 2004 Auburn team that didn't make the final dance here! They had two loses people! How about don't lose two games and expect to get to compete for the national championship! The eyeball test says they arn't as good and it's backed up by the good ole fashion win-loss column in black and white. Conference championships do mean something...if there was debate between multiple teams with one loss and one had won the conference championship they would get in. Phuck, this shite is simple people!
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47803 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:58 am to
Pathetic idea. Some conferences champs couldn't beat average teams.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:01 am to
Even if they want to move to an 8 team playoff, they should wait until the 4 team playoff has made the big 12 fall apart or become irrelevant enough to not warrant an automatic spot.
Posted by Lesmilesdoesntfloss
Da boot
Member since Aug 2015
173 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:01 am to
Expanding the CFP won't stop any of these whiny tards from crying...if you go to 6 teams they will complain about the 7th...if you go to 8 teams they will complain about the 9th...at the end of the day if you're not one of the clear cut top two shut the hell up and do better next year
Posted by AnOddDevice
Member since Apr 2016
215 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:03 am to
quote:

So you are giving the Sun Belt a seat at the playoff table? Good God, man.
Seed them against the powerhouse #1. It'll resolve itself and will eliminate any controversy about who's in or out.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:04 am to

The CFB playoff definitely has made CFB better. All this talk about devaluating a season and making losses acceptable is retarded.

Bama was one of the 2 best teams in 2011. OSU is one of the best 4...the playoff should have 8 teams
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