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re: MLB Trade Deadline Deals and Rumors:

Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:19 pm to
Yeah Price isn't getting traded. Rays are in it and on fire. Forget him.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:20 pm to
Cardinals rumored offer for Cole Hamels is Carlos Martinez, Marco Gonzalez, and Stephen Piscotty for Hamels.

Offer has been submitted and is best offer currently for Cole per sources.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:45 pm to
How much is Cole owed?
Posted by papz
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:50 pm to
They're going to have to add Wong to that package or remove Piscotty and replace him with Taveras imo. The Phillies desperately need to add young offensive players. I can't see it getting done without one or the other.
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:57 pm to
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Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:59 pm to
They're not getting Taveras for Hamels.

They may get Ramsey or Grichuk if they want either over Piscotty.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:49 pm to
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Robert Murray ?@RobertMurrayMLB 12m
Hearing the #STLCards are being aggressive in their pursuit of Jon Lester. #RedSox
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:55 pm to
I think that previous package should get it done for Lester.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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65766 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:58 pm to
Yeah, I'm not a big Lester fan but an upgrade regardless.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:06 pm to
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The Pirates are emerging as a dark-horse to acquire Lester, report Jeff Passan and Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports. One possible centerpiece of such a deal would be well-regarded prospect Josh Bell, the Yahoo writers add. A deal with the Pirates would not necessarily involve Bell, however, Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com tweets.

Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:06 pm to
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Yeah, I'm not a big Lester fan but an upgrade regardless.



Dude is money in the playoffs.
Posted by Overbrook
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:07 pm to
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think that previous package should get it done for Lester.

For 2 months of lester? Not a chance.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:09 pm to
I really think Lester ends up in Seattle this offseason
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:15 pm to
For an ace? Oh yea. They're going to fetch at least the same type of package the Rangers paid for Garza.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:15 pm to
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I really think Lester ends up in Seattle this offseason


If he gets traded this season (which sounds like a foregone conclusion) i expect the cubs to make a very sincere push for him.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:15 pm to
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I really think Lester ends up in Seattle this offseason



I hope he comes back to Beantown. I really don't want to start out next year with Lackey as our #1.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:20 pm to
Lackey has been reported as trade bait as well.... So Dubont or Clay?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:27 pm to
I wouldn't be surprised if Doubront is traded for a bag of baseballs. Dude won't keep his mouth shut and is apparently causing a ruckus.

Clay is an ace one day, and a scrub the next. :/

If they trade Lackey too, It'll probably be something to the effect of

1. Clay
2. Ruby
3. Ronauldo?
4. Workman
5. Allen Webster?

Clay is a crapshoot at this point. He could win a Cy Young or be out of the league in 3 years and I wouldn't blink an eye.

Ruby lacks consistency too, but has a #2 type ceiling.

The rest are #3s at best.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:29 pm to
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For an ace? Oh yea. They're going to fetch at least the same type of package the Rangers paid for Garza.

Lester's better than Garza, but he's not better than Hammels. He's a marginal ace, if an ace at all.
And that package is a lot stronger than the Cubs got for Garza.
Few teams will load up prospects like that - I've never seen St Louis do it. I don't see it.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:37 pm to
Yeah but if they are willing to trade Lackey and Lester keeping him makes sense
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