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Million Dollar Arm Pitcher has Tommy John Surgery
Posted on 5/19/14 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 5/19/14 at 6:41 pm
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 6:46 pm to Bho
I didn't watch the movie. How far above the Pirates' farm system did he make it before the injury? Double A?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 6:47 pm to Bho
PEDs are the source of all these issues.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 5/19/14 at 6:52 pm to Na Mean
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PEDs are the source of all these issues.
False.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 6:53 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I didn't watch the movie. How far above the Pirates' farm system did he make it before the injury? Double A?
I haven't seen it either. Looks like he was in the SAL (Low A) last season.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 6:54 pm to Broski
Truth.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:04 pm to Na Mean
Just need to pitch every couple of days like Nolan Ryan did, keep the arm active.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:05 pm to Bho
So they made a movie about a guy in single A ball?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:16 pm to kywildcatfanone
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So they made a movie about a guy in single A ball?
Yes. I mean it seems to be an interesting story. I'm not really bashing on the subject of the film. This TJ surgery has become an epidemic. HS kids are getting this more and more. I'd really like to hear from Drs why this seems to be happening at such a high rate compared to years ago. I mean, technology has made this into something that you can comeback and play at a high level, but just why is it necessary?
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:17 pm to Bho
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Yes
Why?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:17 pm to Bho
Sure but that's kind of like saying Blind Side is a movie about a mediocre right tackle.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:19 pm to Bho
He was actually pretty good. So far career ERA in minors is under 3.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:21 pm to cheesesteak501
To add to my edited post above, are we (youth coaches) failing at something when they are kids? I know it seems that few kids long toss much anymore, but I still have my kids do it. Is there a mechanical flaw causing this? Is it overuse? I'm not one of these coaches that just let kids throw 100 pitches in a game. I'd never allow that. Just curious.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:24 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Why?
It's a cool story.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:31 pm to Bho
Is it as simple as kids are throwing harder at an earlier age than ever before?
I think sometimes sports progress faster than human bodies. That's what was happening in new school skiing a few years ago, where many of the top athletes were dying on the slopes or ending up in comas. It's still a big issue, but there are ways to mitigate the problems. For example, building the courses so speed isn't as high, etc.
With baseball, perhaps you lower the mound?
I think sometimes sports progress faster than human bodies. That's what was happening in new school skiing a few years ago, where many of the top athletes were dying on the slopes or ending up in comas. It's still a big issue, but there are ways to mitigate the problems. For example, building the courses so speed isn't as high, etc.
With baseball, perhaps you lower the mound?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 7:32 pm to Bho
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“It’s because pitchers simply don’t throw as much as we did,” Ryan replied. “That’s the real issue here. When I pitched, we pitched every fourth day and guys would pitch 300 innings and it wasn’t considered a big deal. If you don’t get on the mound and develop stamina, you’re risking injury. This whole thing with the 100-pitch count limit — I have a real problem with that. Pitchers are all different and when you put standard limitations on them, you’re not utilizing their talent.”
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Ryan's theory has support from Tommy John. The namesake of the elbow ligament transplant surgery many star pitchers are getting, John believed that reducing today's pitching workload isn't doing any current hurlers any favors and is critical of those who still believe it.
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 8:28 pm to Smokedawg
Nolan Ryan is a HOF and a freak of a talent but he has no idea what he is talking about medically. He was an anomaly. None of those old pitchers can pick their arm above their head. Watch a professional team warm up, 20 bucks says you won't see a former major leaguer throwing BP.
Shoulder injuries have gone down tremendously thanks to monitoring pitchcounts and the like.
I think the problem is guys throwing so hard. Its incredible the amount of high school and college arms that are in the 90's.
Shoulder injuries have gone down tremendously thanks to monitoring pitchcounts and the like.
I think the problem is guys throwing so hard. Its incredible the amount of high school and college arms that are in the 90's.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 8:31 pm to barry
Fully agreed on your assessment of Nolan Ryan.
The solution is not getting guys to throw 140 pitches every 4 days. He is just a freak, like Michael Phelps or Usain Bolt, where normal rules don't apply.
Bolt ate nothing but fast food in the week preceding both Olympics. I don't think anyone is suggesting we force feed our Olympians with McDonalds before they compete.
The solution is not getting guys to throw 140 pitches every 4 days. He is just a freak, like Michael Phelps or Usain Bolt, where normal rules don't apply.
Bolt ate nothing but fast food in the week preceding both Olympics. I don't think anyone is suggesting we force feed our Olympians with McDonalds before they compete.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 8:56 pm to barry
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Nolan Ryan is a HOF and a freak of a talent but he has no idea what he is talking about medically. He was an anomaly. None of those old pitchers can pick their arm above their head. Watch a professional team warm up, 20 bucks says you won't see a former major leaguer throwing BP.
This. I had a joke lined up about Tom Brady and advanced drag physics, but I let it slide.
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