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re: Mike Tyson vs "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley (Aug 19, 1995)

Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:09 am to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Tyson had the best stare down ever in that fight


No doubt.

I remember people hyping this up like McNeeley had a chance and as a 12 year old I bought into it
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Tyson had the best stare down ever in that fight

Here you go.

Dude was ready to kill something, and PM is standing there with a shite-eating grin on his face.
Posted by vanburenboy
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Here you go.


McNeely looks special at the beginning introduction jumping around.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:33 am to
Tyson was straight up trying to TEE OFF on that dude. He was swinging wildly, but if any one of thsoe would've landed, he would've knocked PM's head off.

I forgot how anticlimactic the end of that fight was. I remember them throwing in the towel, but it wasn't like he was getting stomped at the time. I also remember how after the fight we all knew they had just done it for the money and wanted to get in and out of there as quickly as possible.

And that pizza commercial (which is awesome) confirms as much.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:35 am to
Also, found a gif of the stare:







Tyson was ready for murder.
Posted by vanburenboy
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:40 am to
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I forgot how anticlimactic the end of that fight was. I remember them throwing in the towel, but it wasn't like he was getting stomped at the time. I also remember how after the fight we all knew they had just done it for the money and wanted to get in and out of there as quickly as possible.


Same here.

You still into boxing? I need to try and get back into it. I am not even really a casual fan these days, I sorted faded off once the era of De La Hoya, Lewis, Naseem, Mosely, Tito, Jones Jr etc ended.
Posted by mperry4
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:41 am to
Either of the Klitschkos in their prime would beat Tyson in his prime. Same for Lennox Lewis. The pugilist specialists who had the reach and intelligence would just frustrate the hell out of Tyson. He never faced a competent behemoth in his prime, unfortunately.

I don't know. Tyson in his prime with Rooney in his corner would have been tough to beat. When he was focused he was one of the best. I remember him fighting a British boxer, cant remember his name, but the guy was scared to death. You could tell just by looking at him. He didnt want any part of Tyson. Someone help me out with the guys name. Cant remember if for nothing.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:45 am to
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You still into boxing?

Not at all. I can still enjoy a good fight, but I haven't been pumped about boxing in at least ten years or so. I came up with Tyson basically, so obviously he increased my level of interest ten fold, but I used to love PPV boxing matches and would always watch them at peoples' houses and whatnot. But it's lost its luster with me, not to mention it's big names (especially heavyweights). I used to think about how awesome it would've been to come up in the time of true heavyweight bouts like Ali, Foreman, Lewis, etc. Back when they were the biggest things on the planet for a while...would've been so awesome.
Posted by vanburenboy
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:45 am to
Frank Bruno?
Alex Stewart?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:46 am to
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When he was focused he was one of the best. I remember him fighting a British boxer, cant remember his name, but the guy was scared to death. You could tell just by looking at him. He didnt want any part of Tyson. Someone help me out with the guys name. Cant remember if for nothing.

Frank Bruno?

ETA:

This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:47 am
Posted by vanburenboy
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:46 am to
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I can still enjoy a good fight, but I haven't been pumped about boxing in at least ten years or so.


I hear ya.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:48 am to
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I don't know. Tyson in his prime with Rooney in his corner would have been tough to beat. When he was focused he was one of the best. I remember him fighting a British boxer, cant remember his name, but the guy was scared to death. You could tell just by looking at him. He didnt want any part of Tyson. Someone help me out with the guys name. Cant remember if for nothing.


I think the young Tyson in his prime would have been outsmarted by the KO's or by Lewis in their primes. And the older Tyson wouldn't have had the swiftness or power to knock them out with a couple of punches. Maybe Wladimir but I still doubt it. Wladimir wasn't in his prime when he got knocked out by the single punches.

I really believe that the current champs (Mayweather, Klitschkos) are among the greatest fighters in their class of all time, but they're not "fun" to watch so they get no credit or love. Just my two cents.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:49 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:51 am to
Wasn't McNeeley the guy that actually had a paid advertiser on the bottom of his shoes for when he got KO'd?
Posted by vanburenboy
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:53 am to
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I really believe that the current champs (Mayweather, Klitschkos) are among the greatest fighters in their class of all time, but they're not "fun" to watch so they get no credit or love. Just my two cents.


I can see it. Both Mayweather and Klitschko are extremely talented and great fighters but boring to me. It is one of the main reason I have stopped watching boxing (I honestly think was a stretch of 7 years or so it seemed I ordered a PPV monthly for some fight). Just no one I like right now or get excited to see.

Mayweather just comes off as annoying to me, so I would like to see him get knocked out but don't think it will happen. (I respect his talent though)

Klitschko just comes off as a robot (helluva fighter though)

On that note: I was and still am a huge Lennox Homer, he would of beat Tyson any day , any time.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:56 am
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:56 am to
So that begs the question, was Tyson just fortunate to be fighting in a period of less-than-stellar competition? I really don't know shite about boxing, but I don't ever remember an athlete ever dominating a field the way he did during his run.
Posted by vanburenboy
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:02 am to
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So that begs the question, was Tyson just fortunate to be fighting in a period of less-than-stellar competition? I really don't know shite about boxing, but I don't ever remember an athlete ever dominating a field the way he did during his run.


Honestly this debate could go round and round and back and forth for days.

I'm in the corner where I think his competition was pretty lackluster, but I also believe his run was fn dominant like you said and he was an extremely great fighter. I just think with his size he would have had a hard time going against people like Klitschko who are so tall and talented.

I know they fought at different stages in careers but he had a hard time with Lennox reach and smarts.


I really think fighters were scared of Tyson early on and mid way through his career. That alone is impressive.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 11:04 am
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:02 am to
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I don't know. Tyson in his prime with Rooney in his corner would have been tough to beat. When he was focused he was one of the best. I remember him fighting a British boxer, cant remember his name, but the guy was scared to death. You could tell just by looking at him. He didnt want any part of Tyson. Someone help me out with the guys name. Cant remember if for nothing.
Tyson was terrifying to inferior fighters. His style was so scintillating it made for great tv and probably the greatest highlight reel in boxing history. Because of that, Tyson is also likely the most overrated fighter by the general public in boxing history--not so much by experts as very few if any have him rated among the top 10 heavyweights of all time.

There's a myth that Tyson was unbeatable in his prime and his sudden mortality had to do with his own decline. Part of his decline was simply that he didn't have what it takes to be great--neither the mental strength not the work ethic. It also had to do with improved competition as Holyfield was by far better than anyone Tyson had faced to that point.

It's also popular to say if Cus hadn't died, then .... But Cus wasn't able to control Tyson; he was an enabler who pacified Tyson and contributed to making him a ticking timebomb. Eventually, he'd crack--Cus or no Cus.

Tyson was a head-hunting mental midget who didn't have the discipline to work a fighter's body when necessary (see the Bonecrusher Smith fight), nor the patience to wear down a fighter who wouldn't just cower in fear. He was a bully who crumbled every time someone stood up to him. Ppl compared him to Frazier because of their height and power. His style was more Floyd Patterson than anyone else (Cus's first champion) But overall, he was a shorter version of Liston without the devestating jab. Yes, the Klitschkos would absolutely crush him.

That said, he was absolutely captivating to watch.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 11:04 am
Posted by vanburenboy
New York
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:09 am to
Well said.

On that note, I was looking up Tyson fights and forgot he fought Clifford Etienne.

And I had no clue that he is currently serving a 105-year prison sentence without possibility of parole.
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:21 am to
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On that note, I was looking up Tyson fights and forgot he fought Clifford Etienne.
Yup. Memphis. I almost went to that fight. The one where Tyson showed up with the tramp stamp on his face.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:32 am to
It was a farce fight.
I remember some commentator saying before the fight that McNeeley can't throw a punch and he can't take a punch.
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