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re: McCaffrey should win Heisman, if justice is applied.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:56 am to TheSexecutioner
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:56 am to TheSexecutioner
I think Henry's numbers are already historic for SEC play. I think.
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:58 am to TheSexecutioner
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Henry's numbers are not historic. He's having a solid year but still far behind Cook and laughable compared to Gordon last year
Correct.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:58 am to TheSexecutioner
Melvin had an all time great season last year. Henry is on pace to break SEC records rather easily, and in Herschals record, on less carries. To say he isn't have a historic season is disingenuous. I'm not claiming it's the greatest of all time but it's certainly historic. He's absolutely deserving of the Heisman this year regardless of what team he plays on. I don't know Cooks numbers off the top of my head, but I feel pretty certain that Henry is not "far" behind him.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 11:59 am
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:00 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Bama's. OL. Is. Not. Very. Good. This. Year.
It's the biggest WTF of the year for Bama, because C-Rob was great last year, Kelly is a very good Center, and Dom Jackson is supposed to be a road grader. They have their moments, but overall they don't mesh well. Henry's speed and open field vision is why he has been a beast.
Maybe the WTF is you misperceiving it, perhaps because you are spoiled by better OLs in the pass. I think its a lot more likely that you are just frustrated by their pass blocking or tendency to give up negative plays that you don't realize that "their moments" are enough to make them a very good offensive line. I doubt they got that much worse or "don't mesh" when they have a great running game.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Right but you called him the most talented skill position player in the country. I'm not talking about deserving the award or not. His numbers in most years would certainly warrant the discussion for the award.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:02 pm to Patton
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I don't know Cooks numbers off the top of my head, but I feel pretty certain that Henry is not "far" behind him.
I consider 7.9 YPG vs 6.1 YPG far behind.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:03 pm to Patton
quote:Who is down playing Henry's season?
People downplaying the season he's having are down right comical.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:03 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Maybe the WTF is you misperceiving it, perhaps because you are spoiled by better OLs in the pass. I think its a lot more likely that you are just frustrated by their pass blocking or tendency to give up negative plays that you don't realize that "their moments" are enough to make them a very good offensive line. I doubt they got that much worse or "don't mesh" when they have a great running game.
You clearly haven't watched many Bama games this year.
Henry has been making plays out of nothing because of his speed and power.
How about you go do some film study on every Bama game this year, and then come back when you are more informed. Thanks.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:04 pm to TheSexecutioner
Cook has 84 less carries than Henry. That's incredible.
ETA: This both helps and hurts Cook, imo. It helps because it shows how superbly talented he is. It hurts because we know he has less carries because he hasn't been durable this season.
ETA: This both helps and hurts Cook, imo. It helps because it shows how superbly talented he is. It hurts because we know he has less carries because he hasn't been durable this season.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:05 pm to TheSexecutioner
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I consider 7.9 YPG vs 6.1 YPG far behind.
Yep.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:05 pm to TheSexecutioner
So out of all the different statistics that you track for running backs, Cook has a wide lead in one of them, therefore his season is "far" beyond Henry's?
And why didn't you address the rest of my post at all?
And why didn't you address the rest of my post at all?
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:07 pm to Patton
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So out of all the different statistics that you track for running backs, Cook has a wide lead in one of them, therefore his season is "far" beyond Henry's?
Not to mention the fact that Cook's ypc would undoubtedly go down with 84 more carries.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:08 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Not to mention the fact that Cook's ypc would undoubtedly go down with 84 more carries.
Close to Henry's, but he would be well over 2,000 yards rushing.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:09 pm to Patton
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Right but you called him the most talented skill position player in the country
He is. He's far more versatile than anyone else while still accumulating over 1,600 yards rushing. His season has been phenomenal and worthy of the Heisman.
Stanford doesn't get nearly the coverage that Alabama does, and that's what it's all about.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The Heisman has evolved to something else though. It's now "who's playing the best, on the best team at the end of the year" award.
THIS !!!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:11 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Maybe the WTF is you misperceiving it, perhaps because you are spoiled by better OLs in the pass. I think its a lot more likely that you are just frustrated by their pass blocking or tendency to give up negative plays that you don't realize that "their moments" are enough to make them a very good offensive line. I doubt they got that much worse or "don't mesh" when they have a great running game.
How about this:
They're inconsistent.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He is. He's far more versatile than anyone else while still accumulating over 1,600 yards rushing
But,
why can't he find the endzone a lot of times?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:15 pm to Patton
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Henry is on pace for a historic season.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
OK that's fine and your opinion. I would probably have about 5 to 6 other guys I would take before him given the choice.
Oh please this is so lazy. It's not like McCs numbers completely blow every other players in the country out. The play in a power five conference, are ranked relatively high, and play in the most populous state in the nation. It's not like if they played their games earlier he'd be a sure fire lock for the award. To boil it down to simple converge is just not something I can buy.
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Stanford doesn't get nearly the coverage that Alabama does, and that's what it's all about.
Oh please this is so lazy. It's not like McCs numbers completely blow every other players in the country out. The play in a power five conference, are ranked relatively high, and play in the most populous state in the nation. It's not like if they played their games earlier he'd be a sure fire lock for the award. To boil it down to simple converge is just not something I can buy.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:17 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Bama's. OL. Is. Not. Very. Good. This. Year.
I know you keep saying this and that Bama's o-line sucks, but it's not true. According to football outsiders, they're statistically a good, not great, line. It's not the dominant line from years past, but it's still a good offensive line. I think you've just been so spoiled by the past lines that you can't seem to understand this.
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