re: Matt Garza to the Rangers Trade Talks

I was thinking Sardinas would be a part of the package too. Olt/Ramirez/Sardinas/Edwards and I can't even guess the 5th if there is one.

I'm not going to lie, that's quite a haul. Two of our top pitching prospects, arguably our top MI prospect now that Profar graduated, and our top 3B prospect. Pretty steep but it probably had to be done. If we were to make the playoffs and fall short w/o Garza, everyone will blame JD and Washington for not acquiring Garza. If we fall short with Garza and our prospects become impact major leaguers, we'll never hear the end of it acquiring a 2 month rental player.

I think Sardinas is really good, but expendable given you have Leury Garcia, Profar, Andrus, and Kinsler in the middle infield.

Olt is Olt. He's another bat, but he's probably some time away from the big club.

I would hate to lose Edwards, but Ramirez, in my opinion, is a bullpen arm. I don't see him as a starter. I see his ceiling as a set up guy.

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I'll always say this--you can never ever ever have too much talent. Ever.

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Bingo.

Think about it this way. Think about all of the talent the Rangers have lost in the past two or three offseasons. And they are able to sustain with one key signing (Beltre) and their minor league/home grown guys.

I see a lot of similarities with how the Cubs are building and how the Rangers built themselves.

He's only 20 and I think they have him rated as the 83rd best prospect. I figured he would eventually be traded but could be a headliner in a pretty big deal down the road.

You shouldn't be. Even if he winds up being a .250 hitter, he profiles as a 20+ homer guy with Gold Glove potential. That's a pretty good ML if it translates especially given the position.

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BigBoyTiger

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Let me know if you need backup

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Even if he winds up being a .250 hitter, he profiles as a 20+ homer guy with Gold Glove potential. That's a pretty good ML if it translates especially given the position.

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But say he's still a year away. That would make him a 26 year old rookie. Is that worth Garza as a centerpiece of a trade?

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Also, Chris Davis didn't put it together till he was 26

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And by that time, Chris Davis had been in the majors for 4 years and had nearly 2 seasons worth of games under his belt.

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Feliz being a starter (they cite 2 months as a starter despite 4.9 BB/9)

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Come on B, you can't just use his walk ratio and discount everything else he brings to the table. That was a weak argument given everything else that was brought up. Not saying you're wrong on what he's going to become, but you just can ignore the potential for more.

Here's the thing. You're probably right. You can't say he WON'T be good enough to be a starter.

But given the body of work and only 2 month track record, you can't say he WILL be.

So I guess we will have to find out.

But my opinion is that he won't. And I'm sticking to it...even if it is a very unpopular opinion.