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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:43 pm to
that game was full of clutch shots including Duncan,The GOHE
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:50 pm to
Brah I'm a fan of the Grizz and will be there 1/17 vs Toronto drunk than a mug yelling for Z Bo and Co to frick shite up

but that was a travel and it's not even close glad he got away with it though
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:51 pm to
it's not even that he hops

he just straight up switches pivot feet

if it were a layup it wouldn't be a travel
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:53 pm to
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he just straight up switches pivot feet
No he doesnt. His left foot is his pivot the entire time. He then lifts his left foot and shoots before it returns to the floor. 100% LEGAL
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:56 pm to
yea he has his left foot as a pivot, pump fakes, turns his body, left foot comes up, right foot goes down, shoots

travel

idk how yall can't see it. I watched in real time and saw it immediately
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:56 pm to
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that game was full of clutch shots including Duncan,The GOHE



Game of the year so far. My emotions were all over the place.

I thought we had won and lost so many damn times.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:57 pm to
watch when the ball leaves his hand

his left foot is up and his right foot is down

AFTER already pivoting on his left
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:57 pm to
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yea he has his left foot as a pivot, pump fakes, turns his body, left foot comes up, right foot goes down, shoots

travel
I agree that would be a travel. That is what I am calling the "hop". But watch it right now, I honestly dont think he even does that
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:58 pm to
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AFTER already pivoting on his left
I dont think he did hop. But yes THAT WOULD BE A TRAVEL
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:59 pm to
just watched it again

all i see is right foot down when he releases the ball
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

watch when the ball leaves his hand

his left foot is up and his right foot is down

AFTER already pivoting on his left



NBA rulebook:

quote:

g. If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:02 pm to
this isn't even just an NBA rule

but the difference that is not in the rule is that his right foot comes down before he releases the ball, making it a layup type play

is that allowed in the NBA? serious question
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:03 pm to
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all i see is right foot down when he releases the ball
Which is completely legal
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:03 pm to
Yes players do it all the time when shooting those half court shots.

Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:04 pm to
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Yes players do it all the time when shooting those half court shots.
And jumpers, and reverse pivot plays around the basket
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Yes players do it all the time when shooting those half court shots.



Yea I know and I've always thought it's a travel that just never gets called

they called that all the time when I was playing, and I didn't know if there was a specific rule difference in the NBA

we were always taught you could only do such a move on layups/dunks
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:07 pm to
Yeah I mainly said that because I was going to post a gif of Marc shooting a similar style shot from 3 quarters court.

Couldn't find the gif.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:09 pm to
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And jumpers, and reverse pivot plays around the basket



yea, which are all traveling violations
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:11 pm to
Traveling:
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To start a dribble after establishing a pivot foot, the ball must be released from the player’s hand before his pivot foot leaves the floor or he has committed a traveling violation. A player who receives the ball while moving is allowed a two count rhythm but must release the ball prior to the third step touching the floor. When ending his dribble a player may use a two count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting. A player who fall s to the floor while holding the ball or while coming to a stop may not gain an advantage by rolling on the floor. A player who attempts a shot may not be the first to touch the ball if it fails to touch the backboard, rim or another player. If a player comes to a stop on the count of one when both feet are on the floor or touch the floor simultaneously, he may pivot using either foot as his pivot. If he alights with both feet he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor. If a player has one foot on the floor or lands with one foot first to the floor, he may only pivot with that foot. Once that foot is lifted from the floor to shoot or pass it may not return until the ball is released. If a player jumps off one foot on the count of one he may land with both feet simultaneously for count two. In this situation, the player may not pivot with either foot and if one or both feet leave the floor the ball must be released before either return to the floor. When a player gathers the ball he may not step consecutively with the same foot, as in a hopping motion.



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This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 3:13 pm
Posted by arcalades
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:12 pm to
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I honestly dont see him change his pivot foot at all. Looks like he keeps the left foot down the whole time



You're correct. It was not a travel.
You have horrible eyes if you can't see he picked up his left foot well before releasing the ball.

I will tell you this. There are circuit basketball camps that teach that as a legitimate move. However, referees have called that traveling every time I've ever seen it done in a high school basketball game.
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