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re: Looking forward to Thursday's showdown: CC @ the new Pels

Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by Split2874
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:23 pm to
I think part of Gordon success has been the flow of the offense. Plus he is probably the healthiest he has been in a few years.

Sometimes just a change of scenery can had a positive effect on a player
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:24 pm to
I would assume. I haven't looked it up. I don't recall him jacking up contested 3's like Steph Curry.

I'm sure he just took them when he was open like he does on the Rockets.

He just has more opportunities to let it fly with the Rockets offense.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:25 pm to
Gordon was always good. He can shoot, and he can drive.

His problem in NOLA was that he wouldn't get calls that most other players would when driving to the basket, and his health.

When he was healthy, he was pretty damn good in NOLA. It's just that he was healthy like 20% of the time he was here.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:32 pm to
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He just has more opportunities to let it fly with the Rockets offense.

So basically, you agree with me and not Boom. I'll take it.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:32 pm to
'Reno' held Davis to 18 or so in the first matchup v CC. FYI
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:33 pm to
Why, what were you arguing?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Why, what were you arguing?

Boom doing the usual, Gordon is a "winner" now, and me saying, nah he's pretty much the same dude, just as you said in a better system now.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:39 pm to
P you and I are on the same page re Gordon don't let that dude try to twist your words or mine for that matter. we both knew Gordon would be a better player in CC than for the pellies.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:40 pm to
But he's the exact same...

Literally everything in like the absolute same.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:42 pm to
I don't see it as the system making him look better than he is.

It's that the system is allowing his talent to flourish.

I think he's a better player than he was in New Orleans because the system allows him to succeed.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:44 pm to
He's a winner. He's with a winning organization. He never was before. It's allowed his %s to hold consistent even though he's shooting way more 3pointers now than ever. It's why at last glance he was on pace to have the most threes made in a season besides curry. But yea, he's the same guy
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:46 pm to
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It's allowed his %s to hold consistent even though he's shooting way more 3pointers now than ever.
Does not understand percentages.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:46 pm to
Pels wanted him to be Catch and shoot only kinda guy.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:48 pm to
You don't Bubba. Being able to keep the same efficiency with increased usage is what separates bench players from starters.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:49 pm to
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Literally everything in like the absolute same.
His efg% and ts% is the highest of his career, and he's averaging 2 more points per game in 2 less minutes per game than he did last season on the Pelicans. 4 more ppg in less minutes per game the year before that.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:50 pm to
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You don't Bubba. Being able to keep the same efficiency with increased usage is what separates bench players from starters.

The point is going right over your head.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:51 pm to
Yet he's a 6th man in Houston and was a starter in new Orleans.

Same percentages

Nearly identical bpm, per, ts%, ortg/drtg, and every advance stat you love to spew.

Only difference is 2-3 more 3s a game, but ignore the fact he had to share with 2 other ball dominant guards and AD. In houston he's the 2nd or 3rd option.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:51 pm to
Steph Curry in 2011-12

.455 3 points % - 2.1 makes per games


Curry in 2015-16

.454 3 points % - 5.1 makes per game


According to the shels and trans around here these seasons are equal, and Curry wasn't a better player in 2015-16 because his % was the same.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:51 pm to
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His efg% and ts% is the highest of his career
3rd highest TS%, and ever so slightly higher than last season. It is his highest eFG% though.

quote:

and he's averaging 2 more points per game in 2 less minutes per game than he did last season on the Pelicans. 4 more ppg in less minutes per game the year before that.
He's being used more, no one denies that. He's virtually the same player as last season, just with an increased role this season.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25533 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 12:52 pm to
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Pels wanted him to be Catch and shoot only kinda guy.


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