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re: List Your Top 5 RBs in CFB This Year
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:00 am to SystemsGo
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:00 am to SystemsGo
Fournette is the best RB in football. All you have to do is watch him play compared to everyone else to see that. The other guys you listed all have chances to be good NFL starting RBs though, so that's why right now, in college, it isn't that ludicrous to say. Fournette will continue to separate himself as the sample size increases. Your YPC stat as evidence that Cook is better is pretty stupid. It's easier to maintain a higher YPC when you carry the ball for 2/3 of what someone else does. Plus the competition the two teams have played aren't even close, as others have mentioned.
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:03 am to DollaChoppa
The only good rush defense LSU has played is Florida.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:04 am to DollaChoppa
Where's the ACC solidarity, brah?
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:04 am to SabiDojo
So that's one more than Cook?
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:07 am to TheOcean
I'm really down about the ACC man. Most of the teams suck. State definitely sucks. I just called Cook a starting NFL RB though so it's not like I'm saying he isn't awesome. Just that Fournette is better. More upside and room to grow.
I had to call out that YPC stat though. Misuse of stats drives me crazy
I had to call out that YPC stat though. Misuse of stats drives me crazy
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:08 am to DollaChoppa
Looking at the numbers, no. LSU has played 2 defenses ranked in the top 50 in rush d so far. FSU has played 4.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 8:09 am
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:10 am to DollaChoppa
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I'm really down about the ACC man. Most of the teams suck.
SEC isn't much better.
quote:
I had to call out that YPC stat though.
All things being equal, I agree. But Cook doesn't have the benefit of a good backup RB, a good OL, and and a healthy hammy
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:17 am to SabiDojo
ACC teams aren't that good. That's solely based on playing some of the weakest schedules and OOC teams in the country. This is me being an anti-ACC homer because I had to face reality with State. I've seen enough ACC games this year to know that FSU and Clemson have 0 other threats in the conference. I mean, when one of your hopes for a third team that might be good is UNC, a team that lost to South Carolina, you know your conference sucks.
I'm gonna create a DoCho statistic that is solely based on my viewing of ACC and SEC games to rank teams. It will be much more accurate
I'm gonna create a DoCho statistic that is solely based on my viewing of ACC and SEC games to rank teams. It will be much more accurate
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:20 am to DollaChoppa
I hate to tell you, but the SEC hasn't looked that great. 
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:22 am to SystemsGo
Fournette
Elliot
Who cares?
Elliot
Who cares?
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:23 am to SabiDojo
One last point I want to make, is that every year people come in with high expectations for college football. In a way we forget how shitty college football teams are. In some aspect, every team kinda sucks. 99% of the time, teams have a serious flaw. The SEC has a lot of flawed teams. The SEC has some bad teams. The ACC has a couple flawed teams and a lot of bad teams.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:27 am to lsutigers1992
1.Cook
2.Fournette
3.Prosise
4.Mccafferey
5.Elliot
2.Fournette
3.Prosise
4.Mccafferey
5.Elliot
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:47 am to SystemsGo
Saying you think Cook is better than Fournette is fine since he's a great player and you're entitled to your opinion, but purely basing that argument off a slight difference in YPC is pretty stupid.
I could easily point to an 85 yard TD run that Fournette got called back because a WR was lined up a 1/2 yard off the LOS that would have his YPC at over 8.5. Also LSU basically runs a goal line offense on about half their running plays. I've watched a decent amount of FSU this year and agree that Cook is an awesome back, he also seems to generally have more space to run which I think is a function of the offenses each player plays in. I agree that LSU has a superior OL which helps Fournette, I also think LSU telegraphs their run plays more than anyone in the country which makes what Fournette is doing even more impressive.
I could easily point to an 85 yard TD run that Fournette got called back because a WR was lined up a 1/2 yard off the LOS that would have his YPC at over 8.5. Also LSU basically runs a goal line offense on about half their running plays. I've watched a decent amount of FSU this year and agree that Cook is an awesome back, he also seems to generally have more space to run which I think is a function of the offenses each player plays in. I agree that LSU has a superior OL which helps Fournette, I also think LSU telegraphs their run plays more than anyone in the country which makes what Fournette is doing even more impressive.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:51 am to lob1284
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I could easily point to an 85 yard TD run that Fournette got called back because a WR was lined up a 1/2 yard off the LOS that would have his YPC at over 8.5.
Dalvin Cook had a TD but pulled up bc of a cramp. I mean, we could do this all day. In my opinion, an argument based on the numbers is just as good as the eye test because there are just too many variables involved.
I think Fournette is better too, fwiw.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:53 am to KosmoCramer
quote:look I know the other guys are great because they are special
He's the most complete back in the nation.
But tell me what fournette isn't great at. Because it's not speed, power, size, vision, agility or even blocking.
Forget the stats and number crunching. I see it with my own eyes. Fournette is different than any other back playing now. The CFB world see that' as well. So when you wonder why a back is getting more attention than a back that is on the #1 ranked more nationally prominent team, that is the answer
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:01 am to ThePoo
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Forget the stats and number crunching. I see it with my own eyes. Fournette is different than any other back playing now. The CFB world see that' as well. So when you wonder why a back is getting more attention than a back that is on the #1 ranked more nationally prominent team, that is the answer
I agree that Fournette is the best, but again LSU has only played two rushing defenses in the Top 50. I want to see how he finishes because the rest of the year is considerably tougher, as LSU finishes with 3 teams in the top 50, one being #3 (Alabama).
Dalvin Cook goes up against 4 teams in the top 50 in rushing defense to finish the year and FSU has already played 4.
I know numbers aren't everything, but they can't be considered irrelevant.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:01 am to lob1284
Right
Like 8 ypc at 150 carries isn't more impressive than 8.7 ypc at 110 attempts
And let's not act like FSU doesn't have 5*s across their line
Like 8 ypc at 150 carries isn't more impressive than 8.7 ypc at 110 attempts
And let's not act like FSU doesn't have 5*s across their line
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:02 am to SystemsGo
Every week some retarded poster puts a different running back ahead of LF just to slight LSU fans.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:03 am to GynoSandberg
Their O-line is pretty young. Either way, LSU is playing much better than they are right now.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 9:05 am to GynoSandberg
FSU lost 4 OL to the NFL last year. I can't think of one 5* OL on FSU's roster. And I'd love to see someone argue that FSU's OL is just as good as LSU's
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