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re: Lebron's jumpshot or lack thereof
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:12 pm to shel311
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:12 pm to shel311
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but can it almost be argued that lebron inexplicably losing his jumpshot as bad as he has has turned out to be a positive thing?
absolutely, it makes LeBron think about getting the other guys going.
When they do that, the Cavs are nearly unbeatable it seems.
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:16 pm to RonBurgundy
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This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:22 pm to Lester Earl
I thoroughly appreciate LeBron Raymone James, I just don't think he is the GOAT.
oh and
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This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:25 pm to RonBurgundy
That's where I am. He's probably the second best player ever to grace this planet. That's not too bad. But, people will be rustled by it.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:31 pm to shel311
Lebrons jumpshot has been Mia for a long time
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:47 pm to shel311
Was just having this conversation with a friend. He was never an exceptional shooter, but he seems to be just god awful at it now. However, as you were alluding, it seems he finally realized that he can't shoot for shite, and instead drive it to the fricking rack whenever he wants because nobody can stop him. Or kick it out to an open man. He just better make those goddamned free throws.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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lebron losing his jumpshooting (out to 3) is one of those "what the frick?" things in basketball
He wasn't a good shooter to begin with. He's always been a slasher with an ugly jumpshot. I guess he isn't putting the time in anymore to keep it up.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:37 pm to The Pirate King
Lol always something for the haters to nick pick.
He's 0-3 out of the paint this series and 9-17 one game at FT line
But all of a sudden he is a horrible shooter.
He's not great and it's not his strength. But he's average at worst.
He's getting to run easy this series. Why shoot jump shots when you don't have too.
2nd best player of all time.
Enjoy excellence. 10-0
He's 0-3 out of the paint this series and 9-17 one game at FT line
But all of a sudden he is a horrible shooter.
He's not great and it's not his strength. But he's average at worst.
He's getting to run easy this series. Why shoot jump shots when you don't have too.
2nd best player of all time.
Enjoy excellence. 10-0
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:46 pm to Bunk Moreland
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He's probably the second best player ever to grace this planet. That's not too bad. But, people will be rustled by it.
I think my favorite thing about LeBron is that he was the first ultra-hyped prep prospect in any sport during my lifetime that I can remember, and he panned out better than anyone could have possibly imagined. I mean he was considered the next Jordan, and it was pure hyperbole, but I'll be damned if he doesn't finish as the 2nd best basketball player of all time, and that is simply incredible.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:50 pm to The Pirate King
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He wasn't a good shooter to begin with. He's always been a slasher with an ugly jumpshot.
It was never pretty, but he was consistently improving as a jump shooter and peaked in Miami. In 2012-2013, he shot 40% from 3 and was 41.7% on jump shots in general.
For reference, Curry shot 45% from 3 and 44.6% on jump shots this year, and he's obviously considered the best shooter in the history of the game.
Posted on 5/20/16 at 12:56 am to 13SaintTiger
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This is what makes this thread humorous. Previously people were mad that he was settling for jump shots, this post season he's doing exactly what the people wanted him to do and he's still catching hate.
People don't hate him because he takes too many jump shots (or used to). People hate him for other reasons. I don't know if I've ever seen someone criticize him for driving too much because I don't think its possible for him too.
The fact that it took him this long to figure it out baffles me.
Posted on 5/20/16 at 1:08 am to JW6
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nick pick.
Nitpick.
Posted on 5/20/16 at 1:19 am to grape nutz
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grape nutz
Don't nick pick spelling on the MSB.
Posted on 5/20/16 at 1:31 am to slackster
grape nuts
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 1:32 am
Posted on 5/20/16 at 1:54 am to Weagle25
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I don't know if I've ever seen someone criticize him for driving too much because I don't think its possible for him too.
The fact that it took him this long to figure it out baffles me.
I mean it has always been a big part of his game, but he goes into frustration spurts where he stubbornly wants to shoot jumpers instead of playing in the post and/or driving to the basket. That game is a little boring sometimes, but he is so effective when he is playing that way because defenses collapse and his passing has been on point lately. When the ball gets stuck Cleveland can get caught in a grind and they're ineffective. When LeBron is driving, he tends to kick it out to guys on the perimeter and they'll swing it a few times until someone has an open 3 or an open lane to drive and dunk. LeBron driving is good for LeBron and GREAT for Cleveland, at least IMO>
Posted on 5/20/16 at 4:51 am to PortCityTiger24
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Seems like he's a bit bulkier and not as fluid.
He actually looks leaner to me than he did in Miami when he played the 4. He's more explosive now than he's been in the last couple of years. David Thorpe was saying on a Lowe Post podcast the other day that his jumper is off because he's off-balance. His hips aren't in-line and his feet are landing in from of him because he's fading away on his shots. That has nothing to do with his physique and more to do with his lack of preparation because he's not a natural shooter like Durant. It's something he has to constantly work at and be in rythym to do consistently.
He can be a good shooter at times but to this point there's just not been a reason for him to do so. He probably just understands how good his current teammates are at perimeter shooting, while also trying to maximize his efficiency since he's so good at the rim. The way he's playing now is facilitated and induced by the scheme and players around him. There hasn't been a guy like Kawhi Leonard or Paul George with the ability to stay in front of him and prevent him from doing this and force him to settle for jumpers.
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 6:32 am
Posted on 5/20/16 at 4:54 am to slackster
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Not to take this thread in an awful direction, but I don't think it is a stretch to say that Simmons can have the type of game that LeBron is having right now. Facilitating with wicked passes, grabbing boards, and scoring in transition and in the paint. His jump shot is way worse than LeBron's, but their style isn't too far off.
I think Simmons is the closest thing we've seen to Lebron as well.
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 5:52 am
Posted on 5/20/16 at 5:04 am to ScottFowler
quote:Why would you want to take away one of his greatest strengths? His passing ability is the main reason why his teams are so successful.
LeBron's end of career position will be the 4, if he accepts that. He is unstoppable at the 4, but he wants to run the damn point and dominate/distribute the ball.
I like the point Windhorst made about the lineup changes Lue has made. He said that playing Kyrie with the first unit makes him more willing to share the ball, and playing Lebron with the second unit helps with depth because he's inherently a better distributor. This along with playing Frye/Love at the same time creates spacing, allowing Lebron and Kyrie to penetrate and providing more overall flexibility. The Cavs have been dominant against the East, but those changes are largely matchup independent.
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 5:13 am
Posted on 5/20/16 at 5:19 am to shel311
They came off a series where they were making 20 3-ptrs a game. They only attempted 21 last night. Irving attempted 22 shots, James and Love 21 shots combined, 68 points for those three, and Love only attempted 2 threes.
Seems like they deliberately went to the paint instead of the perimeter. Could Lue actually be a good coach? FWIW, I think he is, and his rotations have been excellent. Frye was a steal by the way.
Seems like they deliberately went to the paint instead of the perimeter. Could Lue actually be a good coach? FWIW, I think he is, and his rotations have been excellent. Frye was a steal by the way.
Posted on 5/20/16 at 5:50 am to OneFifty
Toronto is heavily defending the perimeter because they're terrified of the Cavs' potential from outside, but without Valanciunas in the paint they can't properly defend them from penetrating. They're pretty much fricked.
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 5:51 am
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