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Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:25 pm to lsufball19
I watch this closely. Wind Saturday was out of the East. Sunday was (as is today) out of the SSE. Nothing went deep to right but TCU hit a monster homerun to left. Yesterday, the wind was out of the North.
I have watched most of every game. When your pitchers are getting 10+ Ks and 10+ ground ball outs, wind and size of the stadium have very little opportunity to come into play.
I have watched most of every game. When your pitchers are getting 10+ Ks and 10+ ground ball outs, wind and size of the stadium have very little opportunity to come into play.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:28 pm to sms151t
The # of groundball outs are up because the approach you are forced to try in that ballpark.
You get a runner on, you bunt and you try to get it through infield
You get a runner on, you bunt and you try to get it through infield
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:28 pm to lsufball19
Why laugh when you know it is the truth?
The pitching staffs across the board are a ton better and deeper.
The days of 1 guy and hope we can make it through the rest of tournament is gone.
The pitching staffs across the board are a ton better and deeper.
The days of 1 guy and hope we can make it through the rest of tournament is gone.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:31 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
I watch this closely. Wind Saturday was out of the East. Sunday was (as is today) out of the SSE. Nothing went deep to right but TCU hit a monster homerun to left. Yesterday, the wind was out of the North.
I have watched most of every game. When your pitchers are getting 10+ Ks and 10+ ground ball outs, wind and size of the stadium have very little opportunity to come into play.
I've watched the CWS for years. If you can't admit TDA has killed the long ball I don't know what to tell you.
here are some figures for you (article from 2013)
" Through 77 regular-season games since 2011, TD Ameritrade has yielded only 29 home runs. That's 0.38 per game, less than half the average college ballpark. Just for comparison, the average major league ballpark in 2012 gave up about two home runs per game."
"In its final three years, Rosenblatt yielded 2.45 homers per CWS game. In 2011 and '12 at TD Ameritrade, the average dropped to 0.64 and 0.67. This year, three balls have cleared the wall — 0.25 per game."
"But in the three seasons prior to 2011, the CWS produced 34 percent more home runs per game than the regular season. Since then, the CWS has produced 43 percent fewer homers than the regular season."
"CWS teams are 21-0 at TD Ameritrade when scoring five runs or more. In other words, there has never been a game in which both teams scored five."
And here is a running tally of hits at TDA. LINK / There have been 43 homeruns hit in now the 6th year at TDA. Home runs are part of the game of baseball. Yes, the pitching can be good, but that is not why power numbers fall off like they do at the CWS now
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:32 pm to sms151t
quote:
Why laugh when you know it is the truth?
The pitching staffs across the board are a ton better and deeper.
They got drastically better from 2010 to 2011?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:34 pm to lsufball19
2009 is when they started making changes to the bat and ball.
So there is some effect and in the past 10 years more draftees are signing with college programs.
They had to do something after 97 though, we were killing people with Slugger -7's. We led the country in HR per game or total, it was one of the two and our guys just hit bombs everywhere.
I know in 99 they took it to only -3. People think HR just went down but it has been down for a while and now starting to make comeback doe to changing the seams.
So there is some effect and in the past 10 years more draftees are signing with college programs.
They had to do something after 97 though, we were killing people with Slugger -7's. We led the country in HR per game or total, it was one of the two and our guys just hit bombs everywhere.
I know in 99 they took it to only -3. People think HR just went down but it has been down for a while and now starting to make comeback doe to changing the seams.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:38 pm to sms151t
quote:
2009 is when they started making changes to the bat and ball.
explain to me why homerun numbers used to go up at the CWS compared to the regular season but now they go down and significantly? Explain to me why teams were 21-0 when scoring 5 runs or more through the year 2013. It's not that pitchers are that good. That's a total cop out and completely disingenuous. Teams completely change their approach at TDA. They all revert to small ball and shortening up their swings. Coaches know this and players know this. It's not a secret, and I really don't know why you're trying to refute it. Just go read through the tweets, right now, of college baseball analysts. TDA has all but removed home runs from the game of baseball played at the CWS.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:39 pm to lsufball19
quote:Not what I said at all. There is no doubt that TD Ameritrade was an ill conceived notion given the summer wind conditions in Omaha. I am talking about the OP. The runs are 1/2 of what they were through 6 games and everyone jumps on the Ameritrade hate wagon. The only things that have changed from last year are the teams. Plus, the wind conditions are more favorable this year compared to others. So what is it?
I've watched the CWS for years. If you can't admit TDA has killed the long ball I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:40 pm to sms151t
quote:
They had to do something after 97 though, we were killing people with Slugger -7's. We led the country in HR per game or total, it was one of the two and our guys just hit bombs everywhere.
I know in 99 they took it to only -3. People think HR just went down but it has been down for a while and now starting to make comeback doe to changing the seams.
no one denies this, but homeruns decrease in half at the CWS, effectively making them obsolete. That's not baseball
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:59 pm to lsufball19
People are talking passed each other in this thread
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:02 pm to TulaneUVA
HR Texas Tech
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:03 pm to sms151t
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Actually it is not but buy into a false narrative.
False narrative? It's been well documented that, with the way that ballpark was built, the wind gusts blow directly in from center field.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:11 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
HR Texas Tech
so the 44th home run hit in the 82nd game at TD Ameritrade Park. awesome
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:24 pm to Broski
False narrative of this year specifically what I meant.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:26 pm to lsufball19
quote:Yeah - not fair. Wind aided since it was a left field bull pen and wind out of the ESE.
so the 44th home run hit in the 82nd game at TD Ameritrade Park. awesome
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:28 pm to sms151t
quote:
False narrative of this year specifically what I meant.
It's not a false narrative this year. This has been an epidemic every year outside last year, where the wind was blowing out for the first time since it's been played at TDA. It just comes up every year because the game completely changes once teams get to Omaha. Also, another thing about TDA that rarely gets mentioned and is another pitcher friendly "perk" is how huge foul territory is. You combine the BBCOR bats with TDA, it's a pitcher's and slap hitting team's wet dream.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:37 pm to lsufball19
It is a false narrative this year as the pitching has been that good. You're arguing to argue now.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:42 pm to tigerskin
There is not a got dang Sonny Gray on the mound. The kid from AZ was drafted in like the 8-9th round, and looked like Greg Maddox. He is not that good (per MLB scouts), so let's not act like this is an abnormal year for great pitching.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:11 pm to AUCE05
quote:Greg Maddox was pretty good. This seems a bit counter intuitive. Splain please.
There is not a got dang Sonny Gray on the mound. The kid from AZ was drafted in like the 8-9th round, and looked like Greg Maddox. He is not that good (per MLB scouts), so let's not act like this is an abnormal year for great pitching.
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