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re: Jadeveon Clowney would've been ejected for 'The Hit,' Mike Pereira explains
Posted on 7/22/13 at 2:20 pm to Sophandros
Posted on 7/22/13 at 2:20 pm to Sophandros
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tackle
The type of tackle allowed has radically changed. Therefore, it is changing the game. Offenses will continue to put up more and more yards and points.
Its like saying basketball is the same game because you still have to dribble and shoot, when the goal is lowered to 5 feet and traveling is now 5 steps. That's just not intellectually honest.
This post was edited on 7/22/13 at 2:21 pm
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 2:20 pm to Sophandros
Facemask in the chest...it was a perfect (and legal) tackle
Posted on 7/22/13 at 2:21 pm to Dr RC
Honestly I think of that type of play starts getting outlawed they should move towards minimal type padding. Have the pads consist of a pro combat type material protecting from direct contact with turf/other players and have a very very lightweight helmet to protect against ground contact with minimal face mask that doesn't protrude over the nose and mouth.
It would never happen but would force form style tackling only.
It would never happen but would force form style tackling only.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 2:21 pm to HeadChange
He would have been penalized in the league for the hit just looking to vicious.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 2:24 pm to Sophandros
He never said it did fundamentally change. He said it doesn't look like it used to. Which is completely correct.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 3:06 pm to St Augustine
I have been saying for years that the NFL and all other levels of football should require that players wrap in the tackle.
But in response to those who think that the game has changed so much, go back and watch, say, the Buffalo Bills from 20 years ago. Go watch the Oilers from that time.
Also take note of the size/speed combinations of that era.
You may think guys hit harder and were tougher in the early 90s, but a lot of players were smaller and slower.
But scoring is so out of control today. Teams are averaging what they scored in the mid-60s--also known as the pussy ball era.
Passing is up today because of the hand check rule (thanks NE) and because of the natural evolution in offense.
Don't worry. There are still big hits out there for the knuckledraggers to get excited over. You just can't fly around with no regards like back in the day. Psychopaths like Chuck Cecil (I still have his card somewhere) wouldn't make it in today's game, sure, but not because they play too violently. No, Cecil wouldn't make it today because he isn't athletic enough and doesn't cover as well. Well that and it's a more cerebral game these days.
But in response to those who think that the game has changed so much, go back and watch, say, the Buffalo Bills from 20 years ago. Go watch the Oilers from that time.
Also take note of the size/speed combinations of that era.
You may think guys hit harder and were tougher in the early 90s, but a lot of players were smaller and slower.
But scoring is so out of control today. Teams are averaging what they scored in the mid-60s--also known as the pussy ball era.
Passing is up today because of the hand check rule (thanks NE) and because of the natural evolution in offense.
Don't worry. There are still big hits out there for the knuckledraggers to get excited over. You just can't fly around with no regards like back in the day. Psychopaths like Chuck Cecil (I still have his card somewhere) wouldn't make it in today's game, sure, but not because they play too violently. No, Cecil wouldn't make it today because he isn't athletic enough and doesn't cover as well. Well that and it's a more cerebral game these days.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 3:15 pm to HeadChange
Football was meant to be played without helmets, and Clowney never would have made that hit like that without a helmet. That's why it doesn't belong in the game. Players were never supposed to hit that way.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 7:39 pm to ballscaster
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Football was meant to be played without helmets
Link? Why do you say this? Because in the games infancy in the 1800s they didn't use helmets?
Posted on 7/22/13 at 7:43 pm to ballscaster
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Football was meant to be played without helmets, and Clowney never would have made that hit like that without a helmet. That's why it doesn't belong in the game. Players were never supposed to hit that way.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 7:54 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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You would be in the area of arm tackling and pushing people out of bounds. Arm tackling doesn't work all too well when grown men are wearing pads.
Close line! Bring back the close line tackle. Not hitting with a helmet, so all is good. Gifford is not a fan I guarantee.
They thought he got killed.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 7:59 pm to dominustd
What in the world about that hit could be considered illegal? It was about as textbook as it gets.
This is what's wrong. Who the fvck came up with language like this? Fvcking terrible.
quote:
when in doubt, he's out
This is what's wrong. Who the fvck came up with language like this? Fvcking terrible.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 9:57 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:The sport was played for more than 50 years before it was common to wear helmets.
Link? Why do you say this? Because in the games infancy in the 1800s they didn't use helmets?
My point is correct. You'd never hit with your head without a helmet, so hitting with your head does not belong in the game.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:22 pm to HeadChange
I'd like to know what rules officials would suggest Clowney have done in that instance to avoid an ejection. If they can't answer the question, then it's a dumb rule.
Player safety is important, but the results of that play had more to do with Clowney being a foot taller than the other player, than anything else.
Might as well eject the runner for being shorter than 6'.
Player safety is important, but the results of that play had more to do with Clowney being a foot taller than the other player, than anything else.
Might as well eject the runner for being shorter than 6'.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:55 pm to lowspark12
In today's NFL he should've dove into his knee and risked tearing the players ACL duh!
Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:58 pm to HeadChange
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This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:09 pm to HeadChange
When's the last time someone even drew a personal foul after tackling a running back? RBs carry the ball with a different set of rules than wide receivers and QBs.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:13 pm to beaverfever
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If you get to the point where you say "that kind of hitting should be against the rules" then you might as well just be honest with yourself and say modern football needs to go.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:15 pm to HeadChange
The offensive line should be ejected for not touching Clowney
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:24 pm to Interception
If that hit is illegal we need to end the nfl as we know it
Posted on 7/23/13 at 2:43 am to Interception
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The offensive line should be ejected for not touching Clowney
Seriously. That RB must've banged one of their girlfriends. The dude is the best D lineman in the NCAA... how does nobody lay a finger on him?
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