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re: IYO, who had the greatest peak in sports history?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:13 am to lsutigers1992
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:13 am to lsutigers1992
quote:To show how impressive it is, you can look at how it compares to the other pitchers in those seasons using ERA+
Doesn't that make 3 out of 4 seasons in a row with an ERA under 2 even more impressive, when you throw in complete games and a bunch of more innings?
Brief description of this below
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The average ERA+ is set to be 100; a score above 100 indicates that the pitcher performed better than average, while below 100 indicates worse than average. For instance, imagine the average ERA in the league is 4.00: if pitcher A has an ERA of 4.00 but is pitching in a ballpark that favors hitters, his ERA+ will be over 100. Likewise, if pitcher B has an ERA of 4.00 but pitches in a ballpark favoring pitchers, then his ERA+ will be below 100.
Koufax's ERA+
1963: 159
1964: 186
1965: 160
1966: 190
Not bad
Pedro's ERA+
1997: 219
1998: 163
1999: 243
2000: 291 (2nd highest all time to a guy who pitched 12 games in 1880)
2001: 188
2002: 202
2003: 211
Insane
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:23 am to lsutigers1992
There were dominant pitchers no doubt, but hitters didn't face the consistent level of pitching that they do now
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:34 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Babe Ruth in his prime. He had so much power. I think he hit one almost 600' in a spring training game. He was the first to hit one dead center at the Polo grounds. No one has been able to duplicate the raw power with hand and eye coordination since.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:51 am to AUCE05
quote:
Babe Ruth in his prime.
When Ruth hit 60 homers in 1927 - American league teams averaged 50 home runs.
When Barry Bonds hit 73 home runs in 2001, National League teams averaged 185 home runs.
So for Bonds to equal Ruth's accomplishment, he would have had to hit 200 home runs in 2001.
1919 29 beat 10 teams
1920 54 beat 15 teams
1921 59 beat 8 teams
1922 35 beat 2 teams
1923 41 beat 3 teams
1924 46 beat 8 teams
1925 25 beat 0 teams
1926 47 beat 9 teams
1927 60 beat 12 teams
1928 54 beat 7 teams
1929 46 beat 4 teams
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:18 am to ZZTIGERS
Goldberg
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:23 am to ZZTIGERS
Watching Pedro in his prime was magical. Every start you sat on the edge of your seat for him to give up his first hit. I remember countless times where he was perfect through 4/5/6. Pretty amazing he NEVER had a no hitter.
1999-2000: 41-10 1.90 ERA 597/69 K/BB 288 HA in 430IP .830 WHIP
1999-2000: 41-10 1.90 ERA 597/69 K/BB 288 HA in 430IP .830 WHIP
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:27 am to northern
Roy Jones Jr from 1995 to about 2002. Just a dominant, unstoppable force in the ring. Incredibly gifted and his fights were always entertaining.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:57 am to Tarik One
5 pages and no mention of Michael Phelps 
Most decorated Olympian in the history of the games. Placed 5th in an Olympic event as a 15 year old. How is this debatable? Gretzky is the only guy in the ballpark
Most decorated Olympian in the history of the games. Placed 5th in an Olympic event as a 15 year old. How is this debatable? Gretzky is the only guy in the ballpark
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:17 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Because it is swimming.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:30 pm to south bama tiger
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Phelps, Usain Bolt, Martinez, Serena Williams, Federer are all names mostly mentioned already but definitely belong in the conversation.
criminally small amount of Phelps talk in the first few pages
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:14 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:
5 pages and no mention of Michael Phelps
He was mentioned. Read the thread again.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:34 pm to ZZTIGERS
Pedro is my answer as well. Made me watch baseball.
Others for consideration below.
-If we are accepting people using PEDs and those in irrelevant sports: Lance Armstrong should be mentioned.
-Pete Sampras anyone?
Others for consideration below.
-If we are accepting people using PEDs and those in irrelevant sports: Lance Armstrong should be mentioned.
-Pete Sampras anyone?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:28 pm to ZZTIGERS
Tiger Woods.
Adjusted scoring averages have been calculated on the PGA Tour since 1988. There are six instances where a player’s season adjusted scoring average was better than 68.6. They all belong to Woods.
Adjusted scoring averages have been calculated on the PGA Tour since 1988. There are six instances where a player’s season adjusted scoring average was better than 68.6. They all belong to Woods.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:38 pm to ZZTIGERS
Mariano Rivera was damn impressive too
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:41 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
When Ruth hit 60 homers in 1927 - American league teams averaged 50 home runs. When Barry Bonds hit 73 home runs in 2001, National League teams averaged 185 home runs. So for Bonds to equal Ruth's accomplishment, he would have had to hit 200 home runs in 2001.
All Bonds would have had to do was play Major League Baseball back then. Ruth wouldn't hit 30 hrs during Bond's prime.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:43 pm to ZZTIGERS
quote:
IYO, who had the greatest peak in sports history
Brian Boitano
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:47 pm to LSUtoOmaha
quote:nothing touches this.
Tiger Woods make 143 consecutive cuts from 1998-2005.
fricking machine.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:57 pm to tilco
quote:
All Bonds would have had to do was play Major League Baseball back then. Ruth wouldn't hit 30 hrs during Bond's prime.
Uh, well Ruth was born during baseball's infancy - in fact, sports infancy...And Bonds wasn't.
So he gives a shite?
All you can do is compare contemporaries and how much more someone dominated his era. Because we are all a product of time and place...How much better were you from people born at the same time with the same game, equipment, training, knowledge, etc.
Bonds didn't remotely dominant his fellow generation like Ruth dominated his fellow generation.
You might as well have said...Well a Navy Seal today would kick arse in WWI.
No shite, Ruth was born in 1895.
Maybe we can debate how a Calvary division in the Civil War would fare against a Panzer division in WWII.
What Ruth would do today is a red herring false based argument...All that matters is what did he do during his lifetime, while alive against his competition - that's all he can do...He can't play against the future.
In 100 years people might say, Bonds couldn't drag a bunt in today's game.
You are measured against your competition period.
Ruth was SO much better than Bonds was against his contemporaries.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:59 pm to ZZTIGERS
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