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Is Kobe the only one of the big three who needed a big man to win a championship

Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:53 am
Posted by alexman
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:53 am
MJ - didnt need one

LJ - didnt need one

Kobe - shaq, gasol, and bynum
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:57 am to
Bosh
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 11:59 am to
No Lebron just had to join up with 2 other top 5 players. Terrible thread bro.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:04 pm to
Lol Lebron needed a former Finals MVP and All Star to win a championship.

And Bosh=Gasol
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:05 pm to
LBJ is the only one who didn't need Phil
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:05 pm to
Dear lord
Posted by eumont
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:07 pm to
at anyone who considers bosh 2010-present to be a top 5 player
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:10 pm to
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big three

Lol
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:45 pm to
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at anyone who considers bosh 2010-present to be a top 5 player


Well to be fair, he was likely NEVER a top 5 player. He was always in my mind a 15-25 ranked type player. Now I think he is a little lower than that, but more because he's not often a focal point. I think he's a very good player, maybe top 35-40 in the league now?
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:50 pm to
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Bosh=Gasol


Pau is waayyy better than Bosh, if you're comparing them at their peaks.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 12:51 pm
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:51 pm to
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I think he's a very good player, maybe top 35-40 in the league now?


People forget how good Bosh was in Toronto. He was a 24/11 guy the year before he went to Miami. He isn't worried about stats as long as the Heat win, but he's still a 20/8 guy easily if he was the "man" elsewhere.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:54 pm to
MJ was surrounded by scrubs, Pippen wouldn't be in the top 150 in today's league.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:57 pm to
I don't know why we are grouping a fringe top 10 player of all-time with likely the two greatest players of all-time (when it's all said and done) in the first place.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:58 pm to
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LBJ is the only one who didn't need Phil.


You're my hero.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

I think he's a very good player, maybe top 35-40 in the league now?

What? Bosh is a top 25 player in the game.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:00 pm to
Don't make me search for the countless posts of this board ragging on Bosh as overrated, weak, etc.

Now, all of the sudden he is a premier big man in the game.

ETA: not responding to you, bro.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:04 pm to
He's certainly not an unbelievable player, but I can certainly see him being top 25-ish player in the game. He's a good player.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:06 pm to
Lol at Big Three? MJ is in his own class...and he didn't win til he had Pippen FWIW.

As for Lebron and Kobe...Duncan doesn't belong in their class? Are big men excluded from this? What about Shaq?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:07 pm to
MJ was part of a big 3 too.
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Kobe - shaq, gasol, and bynum


Please stop bringing up the grossly over-hyped Bynum whose contributions to the Lakers rings barely rivaled Luc Langley.

Bynum as usual was unavailable in the 2008 Finals, but the following 2 playoffs:


2009

6 pts/5 rbs/1 block in 17 minutes per game( Bynum was barely in the top 7 /8 of the Lakers rotation.


2010

8.8 pts/6boards/1.6 blocks in 24 minutes per game(not top 6 of the Lakers rotation)





Luc Longley:

1996- 8.5pts/5 rbs/1-5 blocks in 24 minutes per game

1997- 6.5 pts/5 rebs/1 blk in 22 minutes per game

1998- 8pts/5rbs/1blk in 25 minutes per game




Gasol was a 'soft Euro' who had never won a playoff game(not series but game) in 7 or 8 years in Memphis with a $58 million dollar contract that no one was really interested in.
I doubt if he was any more thought of than Bosh.. Probably considered a lesser player than Bosh or equal at best whose stats/effieciency improved greatly playing along side Kobe.


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