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re: Is Kobe Bryant a Top 10 All Time Great Player
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:51 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:51 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Bird for sure. Dr J as well.
Magic, Malone, Duncan, Dream, all debateable.
Can't remember if Grant Hill was #10 or #11, but obviously him. Not even in Kobe's league.
I consider Magic and Bird to be about equal. Dream was a dominant center for almost a decade and Duncan is the greatest power forward of all time.
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:54 pm to mattz1122
If you say that...meaning 2ish% in eFG% is not significant...then you are making the case for Kobe even greater since the eFG% differs between the two players around that range.
This means that Kobe had a better season EVEN MORE.
This means that Kobe had a better season EVEN MORE.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:56 pm to PianoTiger
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Kobe had a magnificent season. Wade had better efficiency because he was playing next to LeBron.
27.3 PPG
5.6 RPG
6.0 APG Tied for career high
46.3 FG%
50.4 eFG% Career high
50.7 TS%
This has been by far Kobe's most efficient year offensively.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:58 pm to PianoTiger
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Ummm...the three highest FG% Wade ever had was with LeBron on the team.
Three out of four of the highest eFG% wade ever had was with LeBron on the team.
Lets not forget that Kobe has played most of his career with dominant big men.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:58 pm to mikelowery1911
Yeah shooting 50.4 eFG% is insane given Kobe's relatively terrible shot selection.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:58 pm to PianoTiger
quote:
27.3 PPG
5.6 RPG
6.0 APG Tied for career high
46.3 FG%
50.4 eFG% Career high
50.7 TS%
Kobe was AMAZING this season especially for the fact that he is 34.
Just goes to show stats don't tell the whole story. Kobe played selfish and hurt everyone else game
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:58 pm to PianoTiger
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meaning 2ish% in eFG% is not significant
His eFG% in 2009 on a crap team was .516. Last year, with LeBron, it was .506. You can cherry pick numbers all you want. LeBron didn't carry Wade all season long.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:01 pm to mattz1122
You are talking about one season which, by the way, I think Wade was better than Kobe that season. Wade had a strong shot at the MVP that season. BUT...we are talking about this season.
Kobe > Wade in 2012-2013 NBA season is all I'm saying...and the fact that it still remains that Kobe is the best 2 in the league.
Kobe > Wade in 2012-2013 NBA season is all I'm saying...and the fact that it still remains that Kobe is the best 2 in the league.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:02 pm to PianoTiger
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Kobe > Wade in 2012-2013 NBA season is all I'm saying.
And I disagree, and I don't think it's because of LeBron.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:03 pm to mattz1122
Agree to disagree. What you are saying is not that crazy at all.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:05 pm to PianoTiger
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:06 pm to PianoTiger
Kobe has an offensive game outside of 10 feet and doesn't flop like a bitch everytime someone in the third row sneezes. Kobe is also the better defender.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:08 pm to DURANTULA
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Kobe has an offensive game outside of 10 feet and doesn't flop like a bitch everytime someone in the third row sneezes. Kobe is also the better defender.
I love this guy. Is Trey5 your favorite player brah?
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:09 pm to DURANTULA
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Kobe has an offensive game outside of 10 feet and doesn't flop like a bitch everytime someone in the third row sneezes. Kobe is also the better defender.
Kobe's only advantage over Wade is height. Wade is a more efficient offensive player and is better defensively IMO.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:19 pm to mikelowery1911
Wade's shooting percentage is higher because he only shoots from within 10 feet. I'm sure Kobe could shoot 53% from the field if he took half or over half his shots from the damn restricted area, but he actually can hit a mid-range jumper and some threes. I'll take the player with the more diversified skillset over the one-trick pony.
As for defense, lol no. The Heat play great team defense and Wade can have more of a focus on defense because 1. He's not playing along side points who can't defend for shite and 2. He's not expected to be the primary shot-taker or ballhandler for his team.
Drive-by NBA fans don't understand how much of a negative affect on Kobe's defensive numbers that playing alongside Steve Nash has had. Nash is a prime candidate for the worst defensive perimeter player in the league.
As for defense, lol no. The Heat play great team defense and Wade can have more of a focus on defense because 1. He's not playing along side points who can't defend for shite and 2. He's not expected to be the primary shot-taker or ballhandler for his team.
Drive-by NBA fans don't understand how much of a negative affect on Kobe's defensive numbers that playing alongside Steve Nash has had. Nash is a prime candidate for the worst defensive perimeter player in the league.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:21 pm to DURANTULA
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Wade's shooting percentage is higher because he only shoots from within 10 feet.
You mean he takes shots he's more likely to make, thus making him a more efficient player? How is this bad?
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:23 pm to mattz1122
Another gamecock alter. I called it at post #1 on the MSB.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:26 pm to mattz1122
So you don't believe players should have a diverse game? You don't understand how being able to hit a shot from anywhere on the court not only makes you more of a threat, but also helps the team as a whole?
Com'on son.
Com'on son.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:26 pm to mikelowery1911
I agree with you.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:26 pm to Louie T
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Another gamecock alter. I called it at post #1 on the MSB.
Ehhh
Yeah. Makes sense.
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