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Is Karl-Anthony Towns that good?
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:32 am
Listening to a couple ESPN2 shows (First Take, Etc) heard them compare Karl-Anthony Towns and Anthony Davis and say Towns is the better prospect when comparing them coming out of college. Do you agree with that, or is ESPN blowing smoke to boost ratings, considering they host the draft tonight?
I'd agree Towns has a more complete offensive skill set, but AD was far better defensively and I remember everyone almost universally agreeing he was a guaranteed all-Star
FWIW:
AD: 14.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 1.3 apg, 4.7 bpg, 32 mpg
Towns: 10.3, 6.7, 1.1, 2.3, 21.1 mpg
I'd agree Towns has a more complete offensive skill set, but AD was far better defensively and I remember everyone almost universally agreeing he was a guaranteed all-Star
FWIW:
AD: 14.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 1.3 apg, 4.7 bpg, 32 mpg
Towns: 10.3, 6.7, 1.1, 2.3, 21.1 mpg
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 11:33 am
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:34 am to Upperdecker
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and say Towns is the better prospect when comparing them coming out of college. Do you agree with that
no
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:35 am to Upperdecker
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FWIW:
AD: 14.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 1.3 apg, 4.7 bpg, 32 mpg
Towns: 10.3, 6.7, 1.1, 2.3, 21.1 mpg
If Towns was playing 32 mpg, what would his stats be?
He's obviously not as or guaranteed to be as good as Anthony Davis. Davis has a few years in the league and has established himself.
Towns though is a freakishly good prospect.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:36 am to Upperdecker
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Listening to a couple ESPN2 shows (First Take, Etc)
Problem 1
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heard them compare Karl-Anthony Towns and Anthony Davis and say Towns is the better prospect when comparing them coming out of college.
He doesn't need to add weight like AD and he has the best FT % of any big man to enter the draft, ever. FT % is generally a good indicator of offensive capability in the NBA. Towns isn't the defender AD was coming out, AD could switch on pick n rolls his first year, not sure if Towns will be able to do that.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 11:36 am
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:36 am to Upperdecker
He's good, and has a more well rounded offensive game that Davis when he came out, but he isn't as good defensively and isn't as "explosive".
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:36 am to Upperdecker
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heard them compare Karl-Anthony Towns and Anthony Davis and say Towns is the better prospect when comparing them coming out of college. Do you agree with that
Not even close IMO.
AD had that Magic thing where he was a PG that grew late so he's huge with a guard skillset.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:37 am to TheCaterpillar
everyone in this draft will be a bust.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:37 am to Upperdecker
quote:This is always the answer.
ESPN blowing smoke to boost ratings
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:37 am to Upperdecker
How can you actually watch first take?
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:39 am to Upperdecker
People will be inclined to say no because Anthony Davis is an established All-Star with a few seasons under his belt.
I don't know that KAT is as good of a prospect as AD, but he's still pretty damn good.
Coming out of college, KAT had a USG% of 23.7 to AD's 18.8. AD had a higher Offensive Rating, but lower Defensive Rating than KAT.
I don't know that KAT is as good of a prospect as AD, but he's still pretty damn good.
Coming out of college, KAT had a USG% of 23.7 to AD's 18.8. AD had a higher Offensive Rating, but lower Defensive Rating than KAT.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:40 am to hoopsgalore
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AD had a higher Offensive Rating, but lower Defensive Rating than KAT
Really? From all reports and my own eyes I would have said the exact opposite
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:41 am to Upperdecker
watching first take is your first problem.
I dont see the comparisons to AD, davis was a defensive monster who sat back and didn't get involved in the offense to help the flow of the team better. I think towns has the skills to be good, but would honestly rather Oakafor bc you know what he is, he can score in the low post, will require a double team and you can figure out his defense later.
I dont see the comparisons to AD, davis was a defensive monster who sat back and didn't get involved in the offense to help the flow of the team better. I think towns has the skills to be good, but would honestly rather Oakafor bc you know what he is, he can score in the low post, will require a double team and you can figure out his defense later.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:41 am to hoopsgalore
Is KAT mentally and as dedicated to the craft as what AD is and was? I don't think I see it from what i've seen of him.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:45 am to LSU-MNCBABY
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davis was a defensive monster
So was Towns.
Stealing this from a Grantland article:
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Towns can be the centerpiece of an offense one day, but he’ll also anchor a defense. He’s good enough at the rim to let a coach go small to space the floor around him with shooters. He doesn’t have the freakish guard skills of Anthony Davis, but that’s the wrong comparison. Think of the Orlando version of Dwight Howard, but with better free throw shooting and the ability to hit a face-up jumper.
AD was the better prospect because of his freakish ceiling more than anything.
Towns is the more skilled guy coming out and a bit more developed to deal with the rigors of the NBA.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:47 am to Upperdecker
The premise of your post is that the troll buffoons reading from scripts are "debating" that Towns is a better prospect than AD was.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:48 am to Upperdecker
AD was the absolute consensus #1 in that draft and a lot of people were saying "the best #1 since Lebron" or "can't miss" and all that stuff.
There's still debate on whether KAT should go #1, so I really don't see anyone comparing the two outside of First Take.
There's still debate on whether KAT should go #1, so I really don't see anyone comparing the two outside of First Take.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:50 am to Fun Bunch
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There's still debate on whether KAT should go #1
By dumb people. Chad Ford said on the radio the other day that all 30 FO's have Town's #1.
I'd say the comparison is fine because they are both bigs coming out of UK that will go #1.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:51 am to Upperdecker
Rusillo loves him
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:51 pm to Upperdecker
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FWIW:
AD: 14.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 1.3 apg, 4.7 bpg, 32 mpg
Towns: 10.3, 6.7, 1.1, 2.3, 21.1 mpg
So Towns numbers if he played 32 minutes per game in comparison to AD's numbers
............PTS...REB...AST...BLKS
Davis.....14.2...10.4.....1.3....4.7
Towns...15.6...10.2.....1.7....3.5
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:56 pm to Fun Bunch
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D was the absolute consensus #1 in that draft and a lot of people were saying "the best #1 since Lebron" or "can't miss" and all that stuff.
There's still debate on whether KAT should go #1, so I really don't see anyone comparing the two outside of First Take.
That has more to do with the other players in the draft class than anything.
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